quick cycle q and a shout

[bd1]

I haven't posted in some time but always appreciate the wealth of info on the board.

And to any longtime bros I haven't spoken to in a while, hope all is well. Stay in touch.

On to my question - looking for some input on a small cycle I'm planning. I've been off for quite sometime and have lost some significant weight recently (both muscle and fat I imagine) - hovering at about 235lbs or so and starting to get lean (no abs).

Goal: 5lbs of lean mass and as much fat loss as I can manage.

Training and Diet: Both on point right now. Eating right, training heavy, and cardio is on the dot too. Going 5x a week for lifting and 3-4x a week for cardio. Cheating once a week on the diet. Man I hate dieting.

Cycle: Here's where it gets fishy. I've always done huge mass cycles in the past and combined large amounts of test with EQ, winstrol, var, anti-aromatases, PCT, and etc. Complex crap and always looking for size and strength. Not anymore. I've been 275lbs and that's not where I want to be now. I'm looking to keep it simple and accomplish my goal.

This is what I'm thinking, but I'm torn.

10 weeks
EQ - 400-600mg/week (1-10)
winstrol - 50mg/day (3-10)

or

8 weeks
Primobolan - 500mg/week (1-8)
anavar - 40mg/day (1-8)

or

some combo of 2 of the above named 4 aas.

I'm going to be using quality substances this time as well. Nothing against the ug labs, I've used them plenty. But I'm going with euro gear on this one. I haven't used what I would consider good quality winstrol or good quality var in the past, and have never done primo, so I'm really looking forward to that one if I go that route. I just don't know what combo of EQ, Primo, winstrol, and var (pick 2 or maybe 3??) would be the right move - I admit, I've been out of the game for a while and am a bit rusty....lol.

Anyways, help appreciated and thanks in advance.


...bd

 

[bd1]

alright so after some pondering, I think I'm going to go with the EQ and the winstrol. I can get a bit of lbm from the eq and hopefully the winstrol will help with hardening and getting a little leaner.

Anyone have any input?

Thanks again.
...bd

 

[Zuke]

NO Test = No Cycle Wheres the prop??

 

[bd1]

I had a feeling someone would say that...lol

My experience with test (even prop) is that my body tends to retain water in a pretty bad way while on it. Don't get me wrong, I love the way it makes me feel, and I'm a big proponent of using it in every cycle. But with what I'm looking to accomplish this time around, which I think is realistic, I'm going to skip the test and just use the EQ.

Thanks for posting.
...bd

 

[tflexxin]

I agree with the above. Any cycle without test is almost a waste of money. You can put on 5 lbs without using anything, so why waste the money.
use arimidex with your cycle to minimize water retention, and watch your carb intake.