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Quick question regarding coming off

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I have a good friend that was on a 16 week cycle, and just quit all at once. I have always came off right or blast and cruise. He is curious as to when things will return to normal. He is having libido issues, and moodiness from the drop in test and elevated estrogen. It's been about 4 weeks and I told him it should be close to stabilizing.

Just hoping to give him piece of mind.

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I'm guessing he did'nt follow up with a pct regimen? Did he run long ester's, short ester's? To answer your question, i would guestimate between 4-6 weeks or so imo. However, everyone's body is different. I feel your friend should stay away from gear until he does more research, and invest in the proper pct prods. Just my .02. Good luck bro.
 
no one can give you a definete anser becoz every body is different and recovers differently

persnly i agree with above n think 4-6 more weeks

but the possibility of 2-3 months is always possible aswell
 
I am right there with you. He didn't really want to come off. New relationship kind of set it off.

I blast and cruise myself now.
 
I definitely do not suggest doing what he did. Not the best move.

RP
 
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Melanotan II and Cialis in the meantime...I NEVER have libido issues because of these 2 products....

How much Test was he using and what other compounds was he on?
I personally never just quit cold turkey, I drop my dose down to 200mg for 2-3 weeks and THEN come off...
 
no one can give you a definete anser becoz every body is different and recovers differently

persnly i agree with above n think 4-6 more weeks

but the possibility of 2-3 months is always possible aswell

Yes, and sometimes up to 1 year or more.
 
He was taking 500 test e, 300 EQ, and 2 ius of gh.

The 2 most important is to regulate his adrenal cortex function output, and bring up his cholesterol level to the normal range or close as much posible to a normal range, remember no cholesterol no hormone production.
 
Yes, and sometimes up to 1 year or more.

Absolutely,
And have blood tests to prove it. Even with proper pct some have a difficult time getting back to previous levels. Any use of AAS comes with risks - no matter what the dosages, pct protocol, etc.
 
The 2 most important is to regulate his adrenal cortex function output, and bring up his cholesterol level to the normal range or close as much posible to a normal range, remember no cholesterol no hormone production.

I did not know this. So, instead of chucking those extra egg yokes, I should eat a few for the first four weeks of pct?
 
Hi guys, sorry for jumping in on the thread, but thought you might be able to clear something up for me... Literally!

Over the last 2 years I've taken Tren Bombs twice and SD Matrix once (November, just gone). I don't know if it's in my head but I'm thinking I've got a small, pea-size lump directly underneath each nipple. Now, it may be the case that they've always been there, but since my mate mentioned that he had lumps since using the same supplements it's made me think I might have gyno issues.

Anyone had any experience with this? They are pea-size and not very hard. Can't notice them when looking at my pec/nipple. Not painful. And I took Gaspari's Novadex-XT after finishing the prohormones (SD Matrix) as well as Mill Thistle.

It might be me worrying, but don't want to develop bitch-tit!!! I've been supp-free for 2 weeks now... I'm hoping they'll clear on their own, or would anyone suggest taking some sort of AI just to be safe?
 
Coming off after 16 weeks sucks, regardless... but sucks more if he isn't doing anything for PCT.

As for the gyno question... SD can cause gyno problems... prohormones cause side effects, I personally don't mess with OTC SERMS or AIs like Novadex XT... You can get better PCT, that actually works, much cheaper!

I am definitely not the most experienced guy but I mind-screw myself every time I am off cycle and in PCT... It's always a period of time that just feels off...

Part of the roller coaster I guess!!!
 
IMO, PCT is the most critical part of any WELL planned cycle but unfortunately it is often the most overlooked part!

My old partner was on for about 4 months when one day he was advised by his Physician to COMPLETELY come off everything he was taking due to serious health concerns. Scared shitless, he listened to his Dr. and stopped everything. He was on 400mg enanthate & 300 EQ / wk. He suffered severe withdrawal symptoms for about 6 months and moderate symptoms for about an additional 6 months. He said it took a good 18 months to completely feel like his "normal self" again! At the time, he was 25 y/o.

As most have already stated, everyone responds differently! Dose, duration and age are the most significant determining factors. A very rough estimate is AT LEAST as long as the cycle duration!

I also agree that OTC PCT's are pointless!





S
 
He was taking 500 test e, 300 EQ, and 2 ius of gh.

EQ. there's the culprit. should be longer then 4 weeks, maybe 10 or more, depending on suppression, as mentioned could be a year, but I doubt that long from 300/week.
 
EQ. there's the culprit. should be longer then 4 weeks, maybe 10 or more, depending on suppression, as mentioned could be a year, but I doubt that long from 300/week.
explain the bold above please
 
As for the gyno question... SD can cause gyno problems... prohormones cause side effects, I personally don't mess with OTC SERMS or AIs like Novadex XT... You can get better PCT, that actually works, much cheaper!

Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure if it's all in my head, but I'm sure I've got lumps under my nipples that either shouldn't be there or are bigger than they should be! Can anyone suggest what I should do as a remedy? Either some good PCT or maybe see a Doc? Obviously, I much prefer a more secretive route!

Thanks guys.
 
This subject is so complex, and you guys are completely right about everyone recovering at different rates, I learned the concepts of short cycles for faster recovery long time ago, I mainly do short esters which allow you to jump into PCT right away and doing your HCG during cycle instead than after to keep your own levels somewhat going, and to me something I live by is taking longer time off than on, this has worked for me great all these years, now I have incorporated natural supplements and a couple of peptides to my off time and it works great. As far as recovering after quitting cold turkey following a 16 weeker, that's simply shocking to the system, he might take some time to make it all the way back, but that doesn't mean that he's going to feel like trash the whole time, he will start feeling better way before he gets to normality, God bless you bro.
 
Had my Docs appointment today... I got to go to the hospital next week for a blood test. He wrote "gyno-something" on the paperwork. Couldn't read the whole word, but I can guess he thinks I got gyno :(

What PCT do you guys use, if you don't do Over The Counter (OTC) stuff? Looks like my OTC PCT wasn't good enough! :(
 
Had my bloods done last week... Results came back normal today. Going in to see the Doc in the morning... Hope he'll give me some medication to sort it out. Let you know what it is.
 

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