quick questionreguarding test only cycle

[hollaatyaboyy1]

thinking of starting my first test cycle in a month or two and its going to be a 10-12 weeker at 500mg probably enth.... i will be starting my cycle around 9 or 10 percent bf and really am worried about water retention,,,, i plan on using an ai...ed or eod while on cycle but my goal was to be nice and ripped all summer. my question to youis how bad is the water retention at this dosage ?


stats... 22 (july)
5'7
180
9/10%

 

[SmallTownIron]

Water is HORRIBLE, I def. would not do it man. Not worth all the water your going to hold.....dude your only 21, dont fuck up and mess with test right now.

 

[scrapper13]

i wouldnt recommend using test e for your first test cycle..instead i would go with prop 100 mg eod, especially since you are worried about water retention and getting cut.

 

[RESTLESS1]

i never had to use an ai at 500mg of test.....im not gyno prone till i get to over a gram a week or have very many sides.....i was able to keep water weight down with a really clean diet(at 500mg)

 

[minister]

thinking of starting my first test cycle in a month or two and its going to be a 10-12 weeker at 500mg probably enth.... i will be starting my cycle around 9 or 10 percent bf and really am worried about water retention,,,, i plan on using an ai...ed or eod while on cycle but my goal was to be nice and ripped all summer. my question to youis how bad is the water retention at this dosage ?


stats... 22 (july)
5'7
180
9/10%

I agree with Smalltown bro, 21 is very young to start using test, but if you want to use test and keep water retention low, gotta use propionate, you will still retain some water, but not as much as Test E.

 

[j4ever]

water retention will be diet dependant but at your age i would hold off

 

[PlateStacker45]

I ran a Prop only cycle, but with SUS500 pro-hormone added too, for like 10 weeks when I was 21. I believe the combo of it being Prop and not Eth.. and the SUS500 is what kept me lean and dry. It was a decent cycle and pretty cheap.
And yea.. 21 is a little young to start a cycle. But a simple low dose, test only cycle wasn't too bad for me, plus I've been lifting natural for years and years.. reaching my natural peak. You really need to max out your natural frame before even thinking about adding gear.

 

[CHAPS]

Water is HORRIBLE, I def. would not do it man. Not worth all the water your going to hold.....dude your only 21, dont fuck up and mess with test right now.

LOL

 

[hollaatyaboyy1]

ive been hitting it hard since i was 17 went from 260 to where i am now.... have made very good progress my diet is very much in check.. working with alex A training is solid and cardio is a staple in my routine... i feel i am ready... but i want to do everything right.... i would like to get more towards 185 190 shredded before i cycled but i dont see me putting that much size on naturally even eating like a horse... and iwould love to do prop but is the eD inj that bad? i really dont care buti have been told to stay away for the first cycle

 

[minister]

ive been hitting it hard since i was 17 went from 260 to where i am now.... have made very good progress my diet is very much in check.. working with alex A training is solid and cardio is a staple in my routine... i feel i am ready... but i want to do everything right.... i would like to get more towards 185 190 shredded before i cycled but i dont see me putting that much size on naturally even eating like a horse... and iwould love to do prop but is the eD inj that bad? i really dont care buti have been told to stay away for the first cycle

Well bro, if I were to do a first time prop cycle , I wouldn't even think about everyday injections, I would go every other day. It's not so bad, you just have to get creative finding new spots to pin. Blessings my friend.

 

[hollaatyaboyy1]

i hear ya thanks brooo

 

[hollaatyaboyy1]

would you run prop only or something like a sustaplex?

 

[Ehren]

Being 21 etc. has been said and I agree. But you're an adult, so your call, Bro.

To the question:
I'd run nolva just to be safe gyno-wise and see how it goes in the first few weeks without an AI.

I found that at 250/wk I retained LESS water than I normally do OFF cycle.

At around 400 wk. I got a little bloated I used EOD Aromasin, 12.5 mg and it worked for the water, but libido took a hike. I took a week off and dropped to e3d aromasin and libido was fine, but I was tired and strength gains seemed to stop.

My solution and the BEST thing I found...Proviron. It seemed to be just the right amount of Anti-E activity and the gains from the test were MUCH better
on it.

Point is: Estrogen is a bitch. It takes some time to get it right. Don't jump the gun, see how you react while being safe (nolva) and adjust accordingly. If you get bloated, an AI takes care of that, very fast. Only a couple days for me.

 

[buselmo]

LOL@ the replies that he's only 21!!!

yeah... wait 2 or 3 more years, cuz you're a young growing boy right now, and you'll be a man when you're 24.

anyway... some people bloat like hell using 500 mg test, some people don't bloat at all with 2 grams... so, try and see. keep letro on hand just in case. if you bloat and look really fat from test... it aint for you. choose something else next time.

MHO

 

[weight78]

I am going to give you some advise just because like most of us you are going to run a cycle even though some are telling you not to. Start low on dosing. Like 300-400mg maybe throw in a mild anabolic to help solidify gains. Like 200mg EQ or 20mg daily of var. have some a-dex on hand and dose it EOD if you start getting puffy.

Hope this helps.

 

[hollaatyaboyy1]

thanks guys.. i reallyw anted to stick to one compund but i am slowly leaning towards the var or Eq direction... just at a low dose. i hear awesome things

 

[buldog9]

yes. start low and use prop.you should do good @ 300mg .use some hcg and keep the boys from shrinking and pct drugs before you start.

 

[hollaatyaboyy1]

like i said earlier i just dont know if i want to pin eod.... with prop what about ent or cyp shot once a week with good cardio and clean diet... water a problem?

 

[weight78]

split cyp into 2 shots per week. Same with EQ.

 

[killbill]

I am going to give you some advise just because like most of us you are going to run a cycle even though some are telling you not to. Start low on dosing. Like 300-400mg maybe throw in a mild anabolic to help solidify gains. Like 200mg EQ or 20mg daily of var. have some a-dex on hand and dose it EOD if you start getting puffy.

Hope this helps.

X2. Don't forget hcg for the boys