Rank Fat Burners in Terms of Efficacy

[aHarness]

I'm sick i like the jitters I would love to try Helios but I have never once of all the multiple sponsors I've used seen them for sale....I'm convinced they're not a real thing at this point haha

Try an advanced search and search “Helios” in the sponsors subforum. Looks like some carry it.

 

[Elvia1023]

Yeah as I said I’ve never used it so I can’t say anything about it (besides clearly it works for fat burning). Just thought I’d point out that at least in US, it does seem to be having another rise in popularity lately among competitors.

There was definitely a period there where it seems like it was completely avoided among competitors though (or they just weren’t sharing as openly).

We have sold it to a few very high level guys. I would never disclose but well known names. That doesn't mean something is good though and it's only a few people. What does mean something are the 100's of guys who have used it (multiple times) on here over the years. It's always been popular but for some reason guys didn't like to post about it on here. It's the same with SEO and I knew loads of guys using it and they would never post about it.

I should add with DNP the norm was to start at 500mg years ago and to go higher in dose and many done that so no wonder they were put off and felt like crap and that definitely had a negative effect on it's popularity but many still used it and at those doses because bodybuilders almost like to suffer at times and the more they feel something the better it works which should be the opposite of what they should be doing with DNP. I equate it to all the guys who hate melanotan 2 because 10-15 years ago they got it and followed the instructions of 1mg for 10 days to load it in I done the same and fuck that was a horrible 10 days

These days people are much more open about DNP but it still has a stigma associated with it. A bit bizarre to me because many are almost proud to say they use high doses of tren and that is like a real life cheat code because it's the best drug (solely for physique results) by a mile and can transform users. I notice some are the same with semaglutide as well and I guess they don't want people to know they use it because it makes them look mentally weak and they can't stick to a diet. Granted most bodybuilders can stick to a diet but the new appetite drugs are extremely popular and many hide they are using them.

I didn't up until 2 caps until tonight. I planned to a few days ago but I didn't want to take 1 before the gym or 2 together in the night but kept getting in late. After a few days of that happening I just took 2 together a few hours ago. I am feeling the heat but nothing too bad. I an tell I will sweat a lot tonight though. I sweat quite a lot from 1 cap last night so it's built up a bit but minimal (at most) side effects from 200mg per day. 400mg should be different and I will run this dose for 1 week. None of this you can't train hard on DNP crap either. I have been training like a maniac and now I have increased my training volume and doing fine and will be pushing it hard for the next few weeks. I am used to having no energy though so a bit of DNP won't make too much difference because there wasn't much to begin with

 

[plsresmeihaveraygun]

Nothing compares to clen for me personally. ECA was pretty underwhelming.
However I’ve never tried DNP. Not sure if I’ll ever get around to it, my risk tolerance isn’t that high lol.

 

[Cerberus777]

Definitely agree, and I get a lot out of Cardarine and have used it for years

Currently using an injectable Cardarine/SR blend and my endurance is unlimited

The combo is unreal

 

[gib68sg]

The combo is unreal

I just picked up a few bottles of the injectable combo on a 50% off sale and they came yesterday. Excited to give it a go

 

[marssel]

I'm sick i like the jitters I would love to try Helios but I have never once of all the multiple sponsors I've used seen them for sale....I'm convinced they're not a real thing at this point haha

I haven’t used it in over a decade but I’ve gone thru 3 50 ml bottles in my life. They are rare for sure but I’m sure they’re out there, I don’t have any but if I really wanted it I bet I could find it. It can’t be more complicated that injectable l-carnitine I woukd think but I’m no chemist.

 

[jl9987]

I’ve got cement factory fat free atm made by AJ and it’s great for a natural fat burner. Plus injectable cardarine and slu pp 332 will see how it does.

Don’t touch t3 really and clen I just don’t like the feeling of

 

[Elvia1023]

Nothing compares to clen for me personally. ECA was pretty underwhelming.
However I’ve never tried DNP. Not sure if I’ll ever get around to it, my risk tolerance isn’t that high lol.

As soon as I read the first line I thought to myself he probably hasn't used DNP

I came on here to post a thought I had last night and your post is another good example of it. It's really interesting to me the perceptions people have. You have used clen and ECA and you write your risk tolerance isn't that high. I 100% understand it and I felt the exact same before I ever used DNP. The thought I had last night which is funny in many ways shows the exact same. What makes it funny/strange to me is the fact I have used DNP many times. Although I have kept it to 1 cap daily for awhile and last night I took 2 caps and I actually got nervous for 10 secs after taking it which is bizarre. I understand DNP and I have used it and I advise people on it all the time and I know 400mg is not bad at all and I legit got nervous after swallowing the cap. I guess reading all the posts about danger, risk and death on the forums has an effect even if you know the compound.

Sometimes people may look at my sign and think but he sells DNP so he would say that but we literally sell clen, t3 and t4 etc. I don't use any of them now nor will you see me recommending them. Well I will post about them and give recommendations such as clen at 20-60mcg as a booster but I am not a big fan of clen so I don't push it. I would only use t3/t4 if it were medically (bloodwork) needed. All can be very effective and all are very popular so there can be a place for everything in different plans so it's about finding what works best for you.

I am 2 days in at 2 caps (400mg) and I feel good albeit a little sweaty right now. I trained high volume today and I was destroyed afterwards but more of the same is planned tomorrow. I have noticed a big difference going from 200mg to 400mg but I still got a good pump today. Another 5 days at this dose before I finish off.

 

[Fleezy]

You have used clen and ECA and you write your risk tolerance isn't that high. I 100% understand it and I felt the exact same before I ever used DNP.

it's because dickheads like palumbo, moreplatesmoredates and others (i believe i saw Compton) say that the effective dose and the lethal dose are right next to each other.. which - as anyone who has used DNP before, will tell you is complete bullshit

 

[Elvia1023]

it's because dickheads like palumbo, moreplatesmoredates and others (i believe i saw Compton) say that the effective dose and the lethal dose are right next to each other.. which - as anyone who has used DNP before, will tell you is complete bullshit

Exactly.

It got me thinking out of those 3 drugs which would be worse taking 5 caps/tabs. A very silly thought but an interesting one. Obviously I would be in trouble with all 3 so doing it would be fucking stupid. 1g DNP, 200mcg clen or 5 tabs of a usual ECA so approx 1g caffeine and 125mg ephedrine. If I had to pick 1 I would probably do the ECA then eat and then try to work it off in the gym or at home tidying the house and hoping I don't have a heart attack. DNP would come 2nd for me but not far from ECA but I can handle stims and don't like feeling hot. Although nothing is worse than taking too many stims so who knows. I read about a guy who took 3.2g caffeine powder by mistake (only a teaspoon and why they stopped selling it) and he went into multiple organ failure and died. In fact I might go with DNP first because I could control that and try to keep my body cool. Clen would definitely be last on my list because I used to be really sensitive to that especially in the first few days so 200mcg would be disgusting. I used to feel like a crackhead using 60mcg early on and would be trembling in the gym but I know many who can take that dose first day and feel next to nothing.

 

[plsresmeihaveraygun]

As soon as I read the first line I thought to myself he probably hasn't used DNP

I came on here to post a thought I had last night and your post is another good example of it. It's really interesting to me the perceptions people have. You have used clen and ECA and you write your risk tolerance isn't that high. I 100% understand it and I felt the exact same before I ever used DNP. The thought I had last night which is funny in many ways shows the exact same. What makes it funny/strange to me is the fact I have used DNP many times. Although I have kept it to 1 cap daily for awhile and last night I took 2 caps and I actually got nervous for 10 secs after taking it which is bizarre. I understand DNP and I have used it and I advise people on it all the time and I know 400mg is not bad at all and I legit got nervous after swallowing the cap. I guess reading all the posts about danger, risk and death on the forums has an effect even if you know the compound.

Sometimes people may look at my sign and think but he sells DNP so he would say that but we literally sell clen, t3 and t4 etc. I don't use any of them now nor will you see me recommending them. Well I will post about them and give recommendations such as clen at 20-60mcg as a booster but I am not a big fan of clen so I don't push it. I would only use t3/t4 if it were medically (bloodwork) needed. All can be very effective and all are very popular so there can be a place for everything in different plans so it's about finding what works best for you.

I am 2 days in at 2 caps (400mg) and I feel good albeit a little sweaty right now. I trained high volume today and I was destroyed afterwards but more of the same is planned tomorrow. I have noticed a big difference going from 200mg to 400mg but I still got a good pump today. Another 5 days at this dose before I finish off.

You make some good points. If I do ever get around to trying it, I’ll be sure to come back and report my experience on it

 

[Theone233]

Not a huge fan of any fat burners. I use the eca stack from time to time for an energy boost. I tried clen before and I hated how it made me feel. I just take the route of eating good, training hard, doing cardio and trying to get decent sleep. These days I just try and enjoy the ride and realize it doesn’t happen as quickly as we all wish it did

 

[dimethyl11]

Love ECY (yohimbine added) and injectable l-carnitine

Also injectable SR9009

For ECY is this something you’re doing once a day? Like fasted AM cardio. Then EC other times throughout the day?

 

[xpoc]

I broke into my wifes Mounjaro (Tirzepatide) and I have to say it is a cheat code. I am NOT a competitor. I am 56 and generally walk around with a leanish looking 15% bodyfat (I think I look leaner than I am due to vascularity). I microdosed this stuff 2x per week 1.25mg (total of 2.5 mg per week). This stuff is magic. In just over 3 weeks I went from 195 to 180 and didn't lose any muscle (all fat). I am now at 11% bodyfat and look the best I have ever looked in my life at age 56 (been lifting steady since I was 16). I did get some moderate nausea but generally only toward the end of my workouts. I sip pickle juice as I near the end of my workouts to combat that. The biggest issue is getting in enough protein. I used to get in 200grams per day with no issues, now getting to 130ish is a chore so I have to use liquid protein quite a bit.

 

[xpoc]

BTW I would think a competitors could tinker with Mounjaro to find a sweet spot while dieting... anabolics to retain muscle and Mounjaro to torch the fat while curbing appetite. I know it does burn muscle but I don't think that would apply to a bodybuilder or even someone who works out on a regular basis and prioritizes protein.

 

[grizzly978]

Not a huge fan of rankings but I think fasted cardio with GH and the Eca stack has been the best. Keep it simple

 

[st114]

For ECY is this something you’re doing once a day? Like fasted AM cardio. Then EC other times throughout the day?

I’ve done both. I’ve done the Yohimbine AM pre fasted cardio and preWO later in the day. I think it makes for a good preworkout stim. Also done just in the AM with good results, I’d start with that and move into twice a day. I never did more than twice a day though, even when EC was 3x a day

 

[Geardepot]

I've always been a fan of injectable l-carnitine!

Synthetine is always a staple when prepping!

G

 

[Vanguards]

Not a huge fan of rankings but I think fasted cardio with GH and the Eca stack has been the best. Keep it simple

So much this.

Fasted cardio + hgh + maybe a little tren = fat melting off like butter. A little bit of jogging/running, or 20-30 minutes of stairmaster at a decent intensity to get the heart rate up and the fat literally just falls off.

Haven't tried inj l carnitine yet, but will relatively soon.

 

[jfrost89]

Hgh, slu pp 332, inj L-carn, ECY