I’m talking about a deficit as you have to be in a deficit to lose fat. What im saying is I have more fatloss in a deficit the more that the calories in the deficit are comprised of protein.if that works for then great. but it’s not hard to gain fat on high protein diets if you’re not in a calorie deficit
No it didn’t. I was the only one who brought that up and used it as an example for what works for at the end of a fat loss phasethe thread took a protein only diet direction. Wake up
We are not taking about weight loss. We are talking about PMSF!!!Protein is irrelevant for weight loss if you’re getting (key word) enough amounts to keep muscle mass. Energy expenditure is as basic as fat loss goes.
Well said!This was a stupid discussion with a fucking idiot. lol
You don't understand PMSF. You should do some more reading about it. Its proven by Mayo clinic, Cleveland clinic, and I am sure other major medical institutions.if that works for then great. but it’s not hard to gain fat on high protein diets if you’re not in a calorie deficit
I would love to hear what he says. I don't think you need a doctor degree for this though...We need Doctor Scott in here @homonunculus - iirc he recently posted something about excessive protein and storing (or not storing) it as fat. Dr Scott to the rescue!
look, don’t start calling ppl names; don’t take This thread into another direction and don’t say things you won’t say to someone’s face in person.This was a stupid discussion with a fucking idiot.
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Lmao at Mayo Clinic.You don't understand PMSF. You should do some more reading about it. Its proven by Mayo clinic, Cleveland clinic, and I am sure other major medical institutions.
We are not taking about weight loss. We are talking about PMSF!!!
bboy was talking about high protein causing rapid fat loss. did You even read the threadWe are not taking about weight loss. We are talking about PMSF!!!
And that’s false, but whatever you think works for you.I’m talking about a deficit as you have to be in a deficit to lose fat. What im saying is I have more fatloss in a deficit the more that the calories in the deficit are comprised of protein.
Again; stop name calling. Have some respect. You’re acting immature and I promise you; you won’t say that to my face in person.Yeah the Mayo Clinic is a report that some slut bitch ass like you can refute. LOL
What are the specialized cells for carbs?
Just because dietary fats exist does not mean that fat cells are a specialized cell for dietary fats.
There's a logic to b-boy's post, but it's not the precise mechanism (glycogen sparing, reduced catabolic state in skeletal muscle; the reduced efficiency of hydrolysing proteins for fuel) that's been explained, which is fine. But once you do start talking mechanisms, you've got to understand a bit about nutrition and physiology.
That's what A LOT of posts become......I took your post for what you meant and find that it has been quite accurate in my experience too. I'll let those that fixate on quoting studies regardless of their own experience battle it out. FWIW you can take pretty much any topic in the world and find studies supporting or contradicting your beliefs.
Yes you will lose fat at a faster (more efficient) rate, but forget the 1lb per week goal. As much as I love the scale it's not a good resource for total feedback when it comes to physique goals, use the mirror, calipers (not for accuracy but for progress), and scale last. When body composition changes effectively the scale weight becomes skewed.So say on 2800 I'm eating 300g protein and losing 1 lb a week. If I Jack up protein to 400g and adjust carbs and fats so calories are still 2800, I should lose weight ( or just fat meaning I gained muscle) greater than 1 lb a week, in theory?
Just trying to understand. This is for a lean person not pushing alot of hard dieting but always striving to become leaner.
Yes you will lose fat at a faster (more efficient) rate, but forget the 1lb per week goal. As much as I love the scale it's not a good resource for total feedback when it comes to physique goals, use the mirror, calipers (not for accuracy but for progress), and scale last. When body composition changes effectively the scale weight becomes skewed.
Yes, we that know how to manipulate these variables all experience the same as you. I agree 100%Over my years of experimenting with different things one thing that is true for me is I can keep calories the same but lower other macros and raise protein I lose fat faster not just scale weight. I actually diet this way.
Ill lower cals over time until around 2400-2500 and not go any lower. What I’ll do then as fat loss stalls or to speed it up is lower carbs and fats and raise protein. I won’t lose a lot more weight as weight loss isn’t what I want even though it’s something that happens but I’ll lose fat quicker and quicker as I lower carbs and fats and raise protein.
I’ll eventually be on 2400-2500 calories of liquid egg whites and protein isolate.