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Red Beet Root Extract for lowering high blood pressure

Agreed. If you have high bp, start telmisartan now. It also has several other beneifts besides bp reduction. Not sure why guys will inject grams of steroids, but then try to find over the counter bullshit ways to manage high bp
I agree; “let me use steroids n inject oil in my body but I’m going to use a beet to lower my BP”

Makes no sense to me
 
I agree; “let me use steroids n inject oil in my body but I’m going to use a beet to lower my BP”

Makes no sense to me
So
CBUM the mr Olympia winner is crazy for saying he uses beet root extract to lower his blood pressure when he add 20lbs of muscle.
Also if we are on only on couple
Cc of oil a week and blood pressure is 135/80-90 then why not if it bring it down couple points. All meds have side effects and Why not
Try
To limit them when we can.
Yes i agree if we are on grams
Of gear then meds come into play. Every situation is
Different.
 
What lowering BP by 10 points going to help with?
Accrued damage long term. From the longevity studies i have seen show over 115/75 life expectancy goes down hill. The higher it is the faster the drop. Same as having lower glucose or the top of the normal range. Lower is usually better. The max normal glucose added to the max normal BP will most likely be less healthy over the years then those that are lower. Even 10 points.
 
is beet root more effective than say l-arginine for this purpose?
Both beet juice (fresh squeezed) has a very similar response for me compared to AAKG which is a more bioavailable arginine. They both can make me feel light headed if used to much and make caffeine seem super strong. Both help with pumps in gym and for me lowering blood pressure. I think they all work with nitric oxide similar to the mechanisms of viagra.
 
Accrued damage long term. From the longevity studies i have seen show over 115/75 life expectancy goes down hill. The higher it is the faster the drop. Same as having lower glucose or the top of the normal range. Lower is usually better. The max normal glucose added to the max normal BP will most likely be less healthy over the years then those that are lower. Even 10 points.
I humbly disagree with you. i see it first hand, I deal with patients daily with many medical problems.

there’s no way to make a controlled study that tells you for example: 129/72 will kill you faster than 115/75 BP
 
So
CBUM the mr Olympia winner is crazy for saying he uses beet root extract to lower his blood pressure when he add 20lbs of muscle.
Also if we are on only on couple
Cc of oil a week and blood pressure is 135/80-90 then why not if it bring it down couple points. All meds have side effects and Why not
Try
To limit them when we can.
Yes i agree if we are on grams
Of gear then meds come into play. Every situation is
Different.
Do you know for a fact that he is not using pharmaceutical BP medication ?

Every situation is not different. If you are on grams of gear; you are in the same situation as everyone else. unless you’re immortal my friend, only BP meds will save you in the long term
 
I humbly disagree with you. i see it first hand, I deal with patients daily with many medical problems.

there’s no way to make a controlled study that tells you for example: 129/72 will kill you faster than 115/75 BP
I do not look at controlled studies for such things as there really aren't any as pharmaceutical companies wont spend the money. A good example is what do the controlled studies show is the best amount of protein to eat every day. We have the RDA but no controlled studies were done to get it that i know of, but the government made up a number.
I have no controlled studies for that but plenty of data. But when i look up longevity and blood pressure the studies point to a diminishing return once a point is reached. Same for glucose. And that level is also lower then what the AMA calls normal levels of glucose. And cholesterol is the same except a higher number seems to show a better chance at getting old then what is represented from modern medicine. I find it interesting that pharma companies track heart attack rates for decades but don't have life expectancy numbers from people on statins, according to 2 cardiologists i spoke with. It wouldn't help sell products if people actually didn't live any longer.
 
Why not use pharma bp meds and don’t play games with years of your life

Agreed, but there are some rare instances where the common side effect of decreased heat tolerance (🔥) can be an issue... And if the hypertension is not severe the supplement option might be better. Again this is only if one was being exposed to extreme heat (you know for all the swole hot yoga instructors out there, lol).
 
I was listing to CBUM on him saying when he adds 20lbs of muscle and his blood pressure goes up he takes Red Beet Root extract to lower high blood pressure.
What dose are they taking for it to really help lower blood pressure when on gear?
Any one have any experience on taking this to combat high blood pressure?
Most likely (exceptions are not impossible) if Red Beet Root extract reduced blood pressure, it would be a prescription medicine, under control of the FDA.

Imagine someone with low blood pressure issues and they take Red Beet Root and it causes their blood pressure to drop life-threateningly low.

The best evidence you might find that it lowers blood pressure is some study that concludes “it MAY lower blood pressure under certain conditions but no definitive conclusion can be drawn” or something worded like that.

As a rule of thumb, something that claims benefits without any downsides or risks is either lying or it does nothing. “No side effects, no workie.”
 
Most likely (exceptions are not impossible) if Red Beet Root extract reduced blood pressure, it would be a prescription medicine, under control of the FDA.

Imagine someone with low blood pressure issues and they take Red Beet Root and it causes their blood pressure to drop life-threateningly low.

The best evidence you might find that it lowers blood pressure is some study that concludes “it MAY lower blood pressure under certain conditions but no definitive conclusion can be drawn” or something worded like that.

As a rule of thumb, something that claims benefits without any downsides or risks is either lying or it does nothing. “No side effects, no workie.”
You are wrong fda cant approve natural vegetable for a drug class. If that was the case all the vitamins would be fda approved. Its not man made if so it would be approved and made millions from the patient.
So only side effects means things work?
Water works and no side effect it works for hydration and so on with other natural things.
Berberine works and not fda approved so many things i can list.
 
Most likely (exceptions are not impossible) if Red Beet Root extract reduced blood pressure, it would be a prescription medicine, under control of the FDA.

Imagine someone with low blood pressure issues and they take Red Beet Root and it causes their blood pressure to drop life-threateningly low.

The best evidence you might find that it lowers blood pressure is some study that concludes “it MAY lower blood pressure under certain conditions but no definitive conclusion can be drawn” or something worded like that.

As a rule of thumb, something that claims benefits without any downsides or risks is either lying or it does nothing. “No side effects, no workie.”

The Law​

The Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FD&C Act) was amended in 1994 by the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (often referred to as DSHEA), which defined “dietary supplement” and set out FDA’s authority regarding such products. Under existing law:

  • The FDA does NOT have the authority to approve dietary supplements for safety and effectiveness, or to approve their labeling, before the supplements are sold to the public.
  • Under the FD&C Act, it is the responsibility of dietary supplement companies to ensure their products meet the safety standards for dietary supplements and are not otherwise in violation of the law.
  • Dietary supplement labels are required to have nutrition information in the form of a Supplement Facts label that includes the serving size, the number of servings per container, a listing of all dietary ingredients in the product, and the amount per serving of those ingredients. They also must have a statement on the front of the product identifying it as a “dietary supplement” or similar descriptive term (e.g., “herbal supplement” or “calcium supplement”).
In general, even if a product is labeled as a dietary supplement, a product intended to treat, prevent, cure, or alleviate the symptoms of a disease is a drug, and subject to all requirements that apply to drugs.

Beet root is a vegetable
 
You are wrong fda cant approve natural vegetable for a drug class. If that was the case all the vitamins would be fda approved. Its not man made if so it would be approved and made millions from the patient.
So only side effects means things work?
Water works and no side effect it works for hydration and so on with other natural things.
Berberine works and not fda approved so many things i can list.
I didn’t say that. If beet root root worked as a drug, it would be a drug. And be regulated accordingly. Any 6th grader knows the difference between vegetables and drugs. And I didn’t make up the “no side effects” saying. That comes from medical professionals. Don’t parse my words…
 
About a month ago I was taking Cialis everyday with Deca for lowering blood pressure ,prostate, and erection quality. I used a higher than normal dose of beetroot powder a mixed it with vanilla extract for taste and I broke out in the sweat so bad it scared me. I used beetroot powder solo as a pre-workout so I didn't need anything with it so I'm sure that the beetroot powder cause this. I haven't used it since.

I was reviewing Cialis for health issues on trt and Cialis video and it said that you're not supposed to mix nitrates with it cuz Cialis because it can have some adverse effects . Beetroot powder has something to do with nitrates correct? obviously I had them effects so maybe a good idea to not use beetroot powder with Cialis if you're using that or maybe use a low dose of it, if it doesn't affect you. If if you're using Cialis for blood pressure though you probably don't need beetroot powder. I would say beetroot is more for days you're off Cialis. Currently I haven't used Cialis in a while I'm on trt and really don't see a need for it unless I want better erection quality. I don't think it's a good idea to use drugs all the time news as few as possible with this age we live and we take so much anyway supplements and drugs.
 
As in all things chemistry/nutrition, each body has its own unique reaction to the introduction different elements . I love the pumps from cialis+ beetroot. It also makes my vasotec kick into overdrive and my BP is spectacular.
 
I’ve taken super beets powder and/or chews. I think the chews are like 325mg.

I’ve bought the capsule supplement form and I don’t recall what the mg was?

My best success with actually lowering BP with beet root powder I got from 1 pound bag from Piping Rock and I add a tablespoon to my morning protein shake.

NO2 supps work well also for me.

However, with gear I need a BP med so I take Lisinopril prescribed from my doctor.
Doesn’t super beets advertise they increase NO2 I had literally this week been thinking of trying it out. Any good gym results
 
As in all things chemistry/nutrition, each body has its own unique reaction to the introduction different elements . I love the pumps from cialis+ beetroot. It also makes my vasotec kick into overdrive and my BP is spectacular.
Do you break out into a sweat ?

What is vasotec?
 
You are wrong fda cant approve natural vegetable for a drug class. If that was the case all the vitamins would be fda approved. Its not man made if so it would be approved and made millions from the patient.
So only side effects means things work?
Water works and no side effect it works for hydration and so on with other natural things.
Berberine works and not fda approved so many things i can list.
We saw this with NAC a while back where the FDA pulled it (or tried to). I can't remember the full criteria but it had something to with whether or not something is prescribed or used clinically as a drug prior to it being offered as a dietary supplement. If so, no dice for OTC sale. But if it was used as a supplement prior to it being offered by prescription (EPA/DHA comes to mind), then it is okay for over the counter sale.

I remember speaking with my pharmacist buddy and he used aspirin as an example. If aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) were synthesized today, it would certainly be by prescription only due to its drug interactions alone, let alone its efficacy. But since it was used as far back as Ancient Sumeria and Egypt, be pretty hard to prohibit it now. Now if they can classify it at all as having potential for abuse, or maybe claim that it's outright dangerous, then all that changes.

People have been smoking hemp for thousands of years, until it was outlawed. The "Founding Fathers" (whatever the hell that means) grew hemp right along the Potomic in what is now Washington, DC. Most of the world can thank the US and EU Govts for this current unholy mess—starting with The Controlled Substances Act of 1970 signed by Nixon (which is ever-growing).
 

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