Rethinking hgh. By sr Scott Stevenson

[goal245]

God I hope you're joking Goal....

Joking about what? Taking less than the FDA approved dose of HGH?

 

[powerof2]

Dr. Scott- Great vid, just watched the first one... maybe you answer in the 2nd but, to ask regarding 1st vid... Do gh signaling peps like ghrp and mk677 stimulate different growth hormones from the exogenous gh? if so, beneficial to use together?

They go into that in the second on. But from what I gathered I would speculate yes. They work on different paths ( amino profile is what your
body is patterned on) I'm wondering if using mk ect if it helps with keeping body from slowing it's on gh production with long term use of hgh as well

 

[johnjuanb1]

I ate so much of that paper anavar I'm suprised I can still shit right lol

No need to wipe your ass after eating all that paper. It's prewiped.

 

[Synthetik]

Going to sub and tell myself I'll come back and watch these videos.

 

[BEASTZ6]

Thanks big guy. Sometimes I read posts on here and wonder how I becamse so uncool!! And if another lil bastard in the gym calls me "sir"....

Where did the old days go - like when Sorra-Butta-Cheeko (I think that's what SBC stood for)would make posts that I understood and laughed my ass off???
Or the Redi-Cat stories. And wasn't there a dude JINSANE1?
Totally derailed this thread - sorry OP -
- MM out

lol...I did a lot of business with SBC. Brings back old memories.

 

[Gunsmith]

I like to consider myself of semi common intelligence until I listen to something like this then I feel like I'm just one generation away from swinging in trees.!!!

 

[powerof2]

I like to consider myself of semi common intelligence until I listen to something like this then I feel like I'm just one generation away from swinging in trees.!!!

[emoji23] I'm with u man. Scott is on a whole different level of intelligence. It's nice to be on his forum bouncing ? Off him.


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[homonunculus]

I like to consider myself of semi common intelligence until I listen to something like this then I feel like I'm just one generation away from swinging in trees.!!!

[emoji23] I'm with u man. Scott is on a whole different level of intelligence. It's nice to be on his forum bouncing ? Off him.

You guys are too kind!

I'm just trying to help folks out here. I think when you just have accumulated enough hours digging into these kinds of topics and throw out a lot of new information it can sound a bit mind-boggling.

Consider though if either of you were to just start ratting off the basics of training, diet, etc. to someone who had had NO introduction into the fitness / bodybuilding world. They'd very possibly things, "Jeez - that guy knows a TON of stuff. He's smart as hell!!!"

(Knowledge and intelligence are not synonymous, of course. )

-S

 

[Gunsmith]

You guys are too kind!

I'm just trying to help folks out here. I think when you just have accumulated enough hours digging into these kinds of topics and throw out a lot of new information it can sound a bit mind-boggling.

Consider though if either of you were to just start ratting off the basics of training, diet, etc. to someone who had had NO introduction into the fitness / bodybuilding world. They'd very possibly things, "Jeez - that guy knows a TON of stuff. He's smart as hell!!!"

(Knowledge and intelligence are not synonymous, of course. )

-S

So i haven't gotten to listen to the second one yet but from what i gather , taking exogenous HGH with carbs prevent liposis (fat burning) but does increase the IGF rel3ase?? Or did i get that totally wrong.

If someone were using Humulin-R at 10-12 iu pre-workout (4:00pm so he can get to bed for 10) when would be the best time to take 5iu o HGH to get the best growth.??
I've heard its best to take at the same time as the insulin and I've heard that it would be best right before bed afyer the insulin has cleared

 

[goal245]

So i haven't gotten to listen to the second one yet but from what i gather , taking exogenous HGH with carbs prevent liposis (fat burning) but does increase the IGF rel3ase?? Or did i get that totally wrong.

If someone were using Humulin-R at 10-12 iu pre-workout (4:00pm so he can get to bed for 10) when would be the best time to take 5iu o HGH to get the best growth.??
I've heard its best to take at the same time as the insulin and I've heard that it would be best right before bed afyer the insulin has cleared

I honestly don't think the timing of HGH or insulin will have any measurable difference, 5iu gh = 5iu gh regardless of when you take it during the day. FDA recommends one dose before bed, I'm sure they did lots of research.

 

[powerof2]

So i haven't gotten to listen to the second one yet but from what i gather , taking exogenous HGH with carbs prevent liposis (fat burning) but does increase the IGF rel3ase?? Or did i get that totally wrong.



If someone were using Humulin-R at 10-12 iu pre-workout (4:00pm so he can get to bed for 10) when would be the best time to take 5iu o HGH to get the best growth.??

I've heard its best to take at the same time as the insulin and I've heard that it would be best right before bed afyer the insulin has cleared

If u pin I'm it peaks about 3 hrs. Makes sense to pin slin(if u are using say novalin r) at the same time. They peaks at the same time getting the most out slin gh= greater igf. Pinning slin is not the same as ur body's. Even Dave p. Agrees with this. If ur looking for fat loss best without carbs several times a day. Although it plays havoc with glucose. Big Dave dose 3 x a day and feels this is best for him. I tried it and fasted glucose went up to much for me to control. John meadows is another one who believes in one big dose preworkout. I would think that the dr. That are testing best time aren't testing guys that are bodybuilders much less using insulin with gh. Not saying u won't get results by dosing pre bed. Although it makes sense to try and have peaks around workouts. U are already going to get ur largest natural peak a few hrs into sleep.


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[thethinker48]

If u pin I'm it peaks about 3 hrs. Makes sense to pin slin(if u are using say novalin r) at the same time. They peaks at the same time getting the most out slin gh= greater igf. Pinning slin is not the same as ur body's. Even Dave p. Agrees with this. If ur looking for fat loss best without carbs several times a day. Although it plays havoc with glucose. Big Dave dose 3 x a day and feels this is best for him. I tried it and fasted glucose went up to much for me to control. John meadows is another one who believes in one big dose preworkout. I would think that the dr. That are testing best time aren't testing guys that are bodybuilders much less using insulin with gh. Not saying u won't get results by dosing pre bed. Although it makes sense to try and have peaks around workouts. U are already going to get ur largest natural peak a few hrs into sleep.


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I've always looked at any compound from a recovery standpoint from a training session. Whether it's an oral AAS (pre-workout), GH or MK677 (12 hour pulse around workout window), and insulin (never used personally so no experience). If muscle protein synthesis is higher than muscle protein breakdown (and all these compounds around the workout perimeter with proper carb intake would ensure that), you're going to be very effective at recovering from your training session and building muscle.

Of course long esthered AAS would have no impact in this regard, but everything else would. I think GH pre-workout would be the best way of taking it without wrecking insulin sensitivity. Of course everyone's different, and how much our sensitivity gets out of wack is highly individual. It's not like the supremely good bodybuilders have a special way of taking it, as long as you take it

 

[Gunsmith]

. FDA recommends one dose before bed, I'm sure they did lots of research.

Because the FDA is right about so much else.

 

[Designbuilt]

Thanks big guy. Sometimes I read posts on here and wonder how I becamse so uncool!! And if another lil bastard in the gym calls me "sir"....

Where did the old days go - like when Sorra-Butta-Cheeko (I think that's what SBC stood for)would make posts that I understood and laughed my ass off???
Or the Redi-Cat stories. And wasn't there a dude JINSANE1?
Totally derailed this thread - sorry OP -
- MM out

I'm glad that I don't know what any if that shit means, and I'm also glad that I don't wear tights to the gym... and the guys who do; are usually the ones who call me "sir" and "mr". I can live with that...

 

[richiec]

I'm glad that I don't know what any if that shit means, and I'm also glad that I don't wear tights to the gym... and the guys who do; are usually the ones who call me "sir" and "mr". I can live with that...

I'd be too nervous about the Cialis kicking in when not desired

 

[Designbuilt]

I honestly don't think the timing of HGH or insulin will have any measurable difference, 5iu gh = 5iu gh regardless of when you take it during the day. FDA recommends one dose before bed, I'm sure they did lots of research.

The FDA needs to come up with an official protocol for bulking and one for contest prep... I feel like writing them about it...

 

[goal245]

The FDA needs to come up with an official protocol for bulking and one for contest prep... I feel like writing them about it...

They have an official protocol for weight gain, and it's none of this 5iu/day crap

 

[goal245]

The FDA needs to come up with an official protocol for bulking and one for contest prep... I feel like writing them about it...

Read through this and you will know everything you need to know about gh:

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2014/020604s078lbl.pdf

 

[Marvin Martian]

Read through this and you will know everything you need to know about gh:

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2014/020604s078lbl.pdf

But I don't have HIV / AIDS

 

[goal245]

But I don't have HIV / AIDS

Then it will work even better in a healthy person