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RIP ANNA NICOLE SMITH

dragonfire101 said:
Overdose or long term affects. Were they haevy users or ocassional users. I have alot of people I come across with liver failure from long tern rec drug use and have heart conditions.

Both, Alot were what we call weekend worriers. They'd be up all weekend
higher then hell.
 
I feel bad only for her child...What the hell did she expect to happen from years of drug use/abuse....I think a lot people on here give her much to much credit just because she was an entertainer...She entertained for most of the wrong reasons, marrying a 100 year old man for his money, being a ditz, and her battles with drugs...I guess playboy and soft porn were positive for anyone that needed some put to sleep material....
 
HUTCH said:
I feel bad only for her child..

Finally someone else speaking up for that new born.
 
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STEVO 47 said:
Aparently you haven't. And you better check your FACTS again.
Coke and meth are a chemically mind altering drug, Steroids affect
the body physically. Coke and meth also constricts the arteries and
viens restricting blood flow. And to top it off, kills heart tissue on contact.
I've had more people I know die from coke then anything and methis no
differant.

PS Never seen anyone whack out on steroids. Have you????


I was corecting your statement about test affecting your brian.
 
dragonfire101 said:
I understand the point you are trying to make , but the statement made was AAS users take gear to make themself feel better about themself. I am speaking for others not myself why I take gear. I just used myself as an example that there are other reasons.



There are many reasons why people take gear and this is not the only reason. Many atheletes take gear for sports performance. Olypic atheletes don't take gear to look better.

Also the main differance in AAS use and other substances is factoring in instant gratification. AAS user does not recievea instant gratification high such as a narcotic.


ok, so if I take coke before a race its ok cause it to enance my performance and not just to party? its all the same. we all use drugs for one reason or another

Instant gratification.....I use aas for the long lasting gratification cause I know whatever muscle I put on with them will last for the rest of my life, and that race I win will live in in infamy forever. We get instant gratification from aas like all drugs it just don't hit as fast. I can load up some tren and liquid dball and feel different by tommorow. By the end of the week I am stronger by the end of the next week I am harder .....

I see where you are at but I argue that our reason to use drugs doesn't enable us to sit on a hit eithical horse and point down to the loosers.

Our drugs can ruin your life and health too if you are a person who dosent care about your self or living you can escape/abuse anything. Just go to a local bar at about 5 any day of the week. If I just drink scotch to escape my life am I able to walk by a bum high on heroin and say to myself..."looser druggie".....

I just think you dont have the right to say fuck her she was on drugs, she got what she deserved. Maybe just say what a shame she hated herself and another person is lost to what is really suicide.Maybe she made choices in life we didn't but how horrible it must of been to go thru life aparnetly never caring about yourself enuff to stay clean....that is a shitty way to live
 
LEX said:
ok, so if I take coke before a race its ok cause it to enance my performance and not just to party? its all the same. we all use drugs for one reason or another

Instant gratification.....I use aas for the long lasting gratification cause I know whatever muscle I put on with them will last for the rest of my life, and that race I win will live in in infamy forever. We get instant gratification from aas like all drugs it just don't hit as fast. I can load up some tren and liquid dball and feel different by tommorow. By the end of the week I am stronger by the end of the next week I am harder .....

I see where you are at but I argue that our reason to use drugs doesn't enable us to sit on a hit eithical horse and point down to the loosers.

Our drugs can ruin your life and health too if you are a person who dosent care about your self or living you can escape/abuse anything. Just go to a local bar at about 5 any day of the week. If I just drink scotch to escape my life am I able to walk by a bum high on heroin and say to myself..."looser druggie".....

I just think you dont have the right to say fuck her she was on drugs, she got what she deserved. Maybe just say what a shame she hated herself and another person is lost to what is really suicide.Maybe she made choices in life we didn't but how horrible it must of been to go thru life aparnetly never caring about yourself enuff to stay clean....that is a shitty way to live

dude this is so true. even though she wasn't my favorite person...its too bad that she had to go out like that. especially now that her child's without her and that her name is now defiled because of the nature of her death. its just a sad story....no matter who the person is.

and dragonfire....if you feel that anyone who does drugs deserves to die...go read the thread "rec drugs"

that may be a little eye-opening for ya....
 
I guess the main reason I dont have much sympathy for her is because she was handed everything in life and she took it for granted...many people would have loved to live her lifestyle and she pissed on it...she didnt go to college and work her way to be a millionaire or do anything to help anyone...I just dont feel a tiny bit sorry for all these celebs going into rehab or becoming lifetime drug addicts...They do whatever the hell they want, their kids are raised by live in nannys, they work when they want, and yet their life is so hard cuz they have no privacy...SO they have to turn to drugs and get an Oprah special...I dont wanna sound like a hater but I just wish more of them would be a bit more grateful...

Sorry im just tired of seeing Linsay Lohan on the cover of my Wifes InTouch crying about rehab...:D
 
I actually just watched a special and her mother said that she never gave their family a dime. Her sister had luekemia and she wouldnt even help out with $$. Selfish, yes. But I still have to respect her death. Especially since her daugher will not only grow up without a mom and be the butt of a lot of jokes.
 
fourthgen said:
I actually just watched a special and her mother said that she never gave their family a dime. Her sister had luekemia and she wouldnt even help out with $$.

You will hear more and more stories like this over the next few weeks and months. This is a girl with a long history who went by 3 different names in her lifetime. Let's just put it this way. The small Texas town Mexia that she claimed to be from, doesn't want anything to do with her and doesn't even want to associate with her. She's not the angel that some of you are making her out to be. In the end. I am still putting my money on drug overdose or black tar heroin or some kind of bad shit. What I don't understand is that you guys can blackball Craig Titus b/c he was such a loser, and someone almost equally as bad you place on a pedestal. She didn't kill anyone(that we know of), but she was rotten to the core and did a lot of other hurtful things. You will see.
 
It seems like everyone has there own view and opinion on this subject, and I think they all should be respected. And as for the little girl without the mum(english:p ), well I dont think the mummy would have been there for the girl so I dont think she lost out that much. But its sad when anybody dies even sombody like Smith.
 
oldfella said:
I think some of the point here should not be if we liked or agreed with Anna's life style or choices in life or whom she chose to bed down with, it's not about golddigging hoes, it's not about drug use, it's about the loss of a human life through whatever circumstances. Plain and simple. If any of us out there love life, love being alive and appreciate life in general then how can you not have a bit of compassion for someone that did not kill people, rob from people, someone that just tried to go thru life and somewhere along the way got sidetracked, badly. That's all, it's not about your like or dislike of someone you never met, do not really know anything about. It's about respect for a fellow human that has done nothing to you personally.

This is a pretty good view right here. Zuke,Lex,Hrdbodygirl,etc... True compassion. Dixiechic, I am sorry for your loss.

The rest of you wouldn't be on your soapboxes damning the woman if she wasn't in the media. I am saying that this thread is 5 pages long right now because of the media. A rich guy gets the spotlight for killing his wife because he didn't want her taking his half his assets in a divorce settlement. Some of you have probably seen this on TV. It was all over the news. Why? Because people like to see "Big Important People" fail. People in poor neighborhoods kill their wives but that doesn't make for "GOOD TV". The MEDIA MONSTER grows bigger everyday from people's thirst for human misery. You people watch too much TV.

I feel the loss of any life under any circumstances. See signature.
 
The Wolf said:
It seems like everyone has there own view and opinion on this subject, and I think they all should be respected. And as for the little girl without the mum(english:p ), well I dont think the mummy would have been there for the girl so I dont think she lost out that much. But its sad when anybody dies even sombody like Smith.

Very true. The baby was in the Bahamas with a nanny.
 
I just think you dont have the right to say fuck her she was on drugs, she got what she deserved. Maybe just say what a shame she hated herself and another person is lost to what is really suicide.Maybe she made choices in life we didn't but how horrible it must of been to go thru life aparnetly never caring about yourself enuff to stay clean....that is a shitty way to live

and dragonfire....if you feel that anyone who does drugs deserves to die...go read the thread "rec drugs"
that may be a little eye-opening for ya....
When did i ever say this or even mention how I feel about drug use and death. Some of you guys are posting before reading other post and taking other persons post as fact.

I never even mentioned Anna Nicole in my post, how I even felt about her death or anything to do with her.You are personalizing this. I was just making a statement that their is a difference between AAS use and rec drugs becuase when you presented your opinion it appeared you were presenting as fact that they are both the same.

As for Anna I think its sad she did not recieve the treatment she may have needed be it mental health services or substance abuse services to change her life before her child lost a mother. You obviously don't know who I am or what I do. I work with sustance abuse users everyday and my goal is to rehabilatate them so their families can stay intact and that they can go on with productive healthy lifes.

Instant gratification.....I use aas for the long lasting gratification cause I know whatever muscle I put on with them will last for the rest of my life, and that race I win will live in in infamy forever.

Your overaztionalizing this. Which is fine if these are your beliefs. Rec drug users do not think of long term gratification though so i dont see your comparison. I don't really feel like getting into a long debate why steroids are differnt fron rec drug use because even if i present the facts your mind will not change , which is fine because thats your opinion.
 
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I respect that Dragon. I see what you are saying, I was just trying to say that we all use substances, good and bad it really doesnt matter. The thing that kill us is us..wheter we use drugs to do it, lifestyle or whatever...to hate her for using drugs doesn't make sense. that was just her way to hate herself. Love her or hate her whatever I think in any case its sad to see someone hate themselves.

Hutch mentioned lindsy lohan, its sad...girl has every opportunity and guess what...something is goin on inside her head who knows but when you really get down to it she doesnt care about herself, its a shame to see even in her or the guy on the sidewalk.

I could really care less about these people but I still think its sad for them and ones around um.


Also I love debateing with you guys. I know alot of you as I have had hard times and dealt personally with alot of the things we talk about. We don't know alot about each other and our background. You could be saint in real life.Please don't take my points and thoughts personally, I also know that the way I write may seem to have a "tone "to it but that is just the way I think.
A thread like this brings out 15 different views on a subject and I really like to see all how we all see it differntly and I love to debate about it.
 
LEX said:
I could really care less about these people but I still think its sad for them and ones around um.
Also I love debateing with you guys.

OH YA ! Thanks for getting my damper up you sonofa.......:D
 
LEX said:
I respect that Dragon. I see what you are saying, I was just trying to say that we all use substances, good and bad it really doesnt matter. The thing that kill us is us..wheter we use drugs to do it, lifestyle or whatever...to hate her for using drugs doesn't make sense. that was just her way to hate herself. Love her or hate her whatever I think in any case its sad to see someone hate themselves.

Hutch mentioned lindsy lohan, its sad...girl has every opportunity and guess what...something is goin on inside her head who knows but when you really get down to it she doesnt care about herself, its a shame to see even in her or the guy on the sidewalk.

I could really care less about these people but I still think its sad for them and ones around um.


Also I love debateing with you guys. I know alot of you as I have had hard times and dealt personally with alot of the things we talk about. We don't know alot about each other and our background. You could be saint in real life.Please don't take my points and thoughts personally, I also know that the way I write may seem to have a "tone "to it but that is just the way I think.
A thread like this brings out 15 different views on a subject and I really like to see all how we all see it differntly and I love to debate about it.

hahahahaha...Lex. Man... You pulling that Jedi Mindtrick Stuff On Us Now? hahahaha
 
dragonfire101 said:
I was just making a statement that their is a difference between AAS use and rec drugs becuase when you presented your opinion it appeared you were presenting as fact that they are both the same.

haha that was my first post in the thread! lol

i understand what you're saying....but i just feel its sad that people have to resort to stuff like that to be happy with themselves...
 
No drugs found in her stomach during the autopsy. Oh my god, it WAS the Trim Spa!!!
 
balls deep

There is one universal law. The law of attraction. Basically, what goes around fucking comes around. You reap what you sew. That 400 mill was both her and her son's death sentence. The newborn will be much better off without her carnieriffic freakshow mom screwing shit up.
 

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