Elvia you cannot take the Castleberry thing out of context as a blanket statement. I have known that guy since he was a teenager. I dont think much of him personally but at one time like yourself and every single other person on this board and in the sport of bodybuilding he was natural. Do you really think that I think 230-255lbs Brad Castleberry is natural? I dont and have never thought it. At one time in the early days he went into the natural federation put on by Lou Zwick. He went in smooth as a babies ass at like 194lbs if i remember right. He was drug tested and got second. And then they later on awarded him first because the guy who won flunked the drug test. Bradley has a deceptive build. He has insane abs and intercostals that make him look like he is a lot leaner than he is. Back then his legs were smooth as hell and he didnt have a vein or cut in his limbs. Truly ripped he would have had to be 176lbs if that i would venture at 5'9". Thats where I leave it. He had incredible genetics for leaping, lifting heavy weights and bodybuilding. At one time on his way up he was clean...just like you were, I was and every single person reading this was. From his training partners info he went from that point to pro hormones to juice. Again Ive seen that kid for 20 years so at one time he was clean and then he wasnt...I am pretty sure if i knew you when you were 14 years old or so all the way on up...sometime in that journey you were natural also.
On Mike Ohearn Elvia i dont think I have ever said or thought he was natural. The last time i think I commented on him was this
https://www.professionalmuscle.com/...turally-in-his-50s.168065/page-2#post-2966057
A lot of this Ronnie BS is human nature. Here is some data correct? Ronnie is/was a juicer correct? What benefit does it do him at all to tell people that he was natural in 1991 and for a few years before going all out? Its makes him no money. It doesnt give him any benefit at all. The bottom line is he was a bigtime juicer later on...thats the data. What benefit does it do for Flex Wheeler to tell people 30 something years later that Ronnie was natural in 91 and the first few years? Nothing. It does absolutely nothing for Flex and it does nothing for Ronnie. What benefit does it do for Levrone to tell people Ronnie was natural in 91 and the first few years? Nothing. Flex Levrone Ronnie and others who repeat this story get absolutely no benefit at all from telling this story. Doesnt benefit anyone monetarily or otherwise. Everyone knows Ronnie hit the juice and GH on his run. Those arent the only guys saying it from back in the day. I am just too lazy to look up the other guys. But there is no benefit at all for those guys or Ronnie or Flex or Levrone to say this stuff....so why say it unless its what they know as the truth. There is a human nature element to this also.
One of the stedheads in his gym (Brian for instance) didn't recommend something low dosed for his early contest preps. Obviously complete speculation with no evidence whatsoever and he had to start somewhere but looking at the pics later on (not when he turned pro) I just don't see it. 
