SATUTRATED RECEPTORS???? should I stop???

Steak Helmet · Feb 21, 2005

fellas here is my thing...I have been stuck at about 234 to 240 depending on my 3 day activities.

I ran 400mgs EQ and 5mgs of prop a week for 8 weeks. I then took 6 weeks off and started clomid 200mgs the first day and 100mgs for 13 days then 50mgs for 7 days. Then on week 8 I started SUS EOD and EQ 400mgs a week. on week 3 I added 50mgs of lquid Dbol and now i am on week 9. I have been eating good, but I have not really noticed much in weight gain.

Could I be burnt out on AAS??? Also, I usually run SUS with something else. Could my body be use to sus and not responding to it??

Thanks for all your input.

STEAK HELMET confused at the moment

BrooklynJuice · Feb 21, 2005

I believe most AAS receptor theories to be bunk. Take a real hard look at your training and macronutrient/calorie log (dont have one? better start if your serious!)

rAJJIN · Feb 21, 2005

steak

yea I would switch it up man...
Just like anything your body starts to get use to things..
Try some parabolan in place of that EQ and drop that sissy ass sust and prop
and get you some cypionate

If you can swing it add a small amount of hgh And Igf-L3
Why the weeks off and clomid? I never noticed clomid doing anything for me.
If its to keep your nuts in check, hcg is much better imo.

I always like to switch test from cyp to enan.. prop alone
just doesnt do much for me.. its a nice booster but not good as your test base again just my .o2 Try some new combos and the Long Igf
if you havnt tried it yet.

MikeS · Feb 22, 2005

Technically receptors should upgrade in response to the added hormone. You body is always attempting homeostasis, so things manage to settle off. I keep test (long AND short acting) going and switch up every 4-6wks on other stuff. 8wks on IMO is not long enough.

Steak Helmet · Feb 22, 2005

RAJJIN,

I will be switching to ENANTHATE(thanks to a good bro

) , SUSPENSION, and winny...
I had the clomid here and I figure it could not hurt????
what do you think???

ENANTHATE 500mgs a week 10 weeks
SUSPENSION ED 40 days (once the suspension runs out, give me a ester to use?)
Winny ED 50mgs 6 weeks

get some HCG
HGH should be on its way in 8 days

Ok MIKE S do not run the ENANTHATE for 10...just 8wks???

I know these are newbieish questions, but my mind is just fried thinking about this...so I figured come here and ask a few of my buddies and good bros.

MikeS · Feb 22, 2005

I was saying 8wks is not enough. Run 12wk+.
And dont stop the suspensionafter 40d-suspension may be
my alltime favorite, to start a cycle (quick gains) AND
to end with also (quick clearance). So just keep them both going
throughout the cycle, drop doses the last 3-4wks; and then
add some hardening stuff (fina/Eq/winny/halo...).

Steak Helmet · Feb 22, 2005

Thanks MIKE...

I will run things for a bit longer than switch it up.

Like I stated, for some reason I have been having mental blocks on what to do.

Thanks for all the advice.

My SUSPENSION is cloudy white is that the norm????? looks like liquid Clomid

should I heat it to dissolve the white stuff before injecting???

rAJJIN · Feb 22, 2005

Steak Helmet said:
Thanks MIKE...

I will run things for a bit longer than switch it up.

Like I stated, for some reason I have been having mental blocks on what to do.

Thanks for all the advice.

My SUSPENSION is cloudy white is that the norm????? looks like liquid Clomid

should I heat it to dissolve the white stuff before injecting???

No dont heat it.. Just shake it up real good before each use..
If its a waterbase 'suspension' (which it sounds like) itll settle to the bottom like that. I like the suspension MUCH better choice then prop imo..

I dont realy count weeks.. I just go at it hard with heavier doses for a while
(say 8-12 week like you mention) then tone it down to just a maintenance
dose of test maybe some little stuff. Then do it all over again full blast
and try and grow in sperts... put a layer on top of layer

enanthates good..cyp has become my favorite. goodluck big fella
234-240 its not just going to come as easy as it used to

Im just a little ole 223 but recently making some good gains.

Qwert · Feb 22, 2005

I'm just curious as to why 8 weeks isn't enough? I usually max out at weeks 7-9 & even if I stay on for another 4 weeks, I don't gain much except mostly fat & water. Wouldn't it make more sense to hit it hard for 8 weeks, then go on post cycle therapy of HCG, nolvadex, GH & insulin for 6-8 weeks & then hit it hard again for another 8 weeks?

Starkraven · Feb 22, 2005

i was wondering why you liked the suspension MUCH better than prop? i used water based test suspension and it certainly was really good shit, i never did a prop cycle, phenyl-prop, but i was bulking with suspension and cutting with the phenyl-prop so i couldnt tell really. i do like short esters. i wont be using long esters again, especially tren. also, what brands of water-based suspension do you like?

rAJJIN said:
No dont heat it.. Just shake it up real good before each use..
If its a waterbase 'suspension' (which it sounds like) itll settle to the bottom like that. I like the suspension MUCH better choice then prop imo..

I dont realy count weeks.. I just go at it hard with heavier doses for a while
(say 8-12 week like you mention) then tone it down to just a maintenance
dose of test maybe some little stuff. Then do it all over again full blast
and try and grow in sperts... put a layer on top of layer

enanthates good..cyp has become my favorite. goodluck big fella
234-240 its not just going to come as easy as it used to
Im just a little ole 223 but recently making some good gains.

bigbadasian · Feb 22, 2005

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|--[\\\]>---------- I dont ever go off...i believe in running moderate cycles all year round and just switching up every so often. on avg. i usually swithc up every 16 weeks or so.

MikeS · Feb 22, 2005

Yeah Im 46 and do go off either. I do HRT (200-250mg wk) during 'off' times.

If the suspension is oil heat it; if water shake it.

Shit yes susp is better than prop-it hits you like a brick. Phenly prop is only a little shorter acting the enanthate, its a double bond prop carbon ester-maybe 4 day half life. I wouldnt consider it a short acting test.

glenihan · Feb 23, 2005

i've never used test susp. but i want to run it for the last 4 weeks precontest ... does it hurt something awful? i've heard it feels like you've been pounded by a sledgehammer

PHIL HERNON · Feb 23, 2005

Steak

Not everyone can be over 250. Nor is it safe for everyone to be over 250. Remember genetics plays a bigger role than we can imagine.

Starkraven · Feb 23, 2005

glenihan said:
i've never used test susp. but i want to run it for the last 4 weeks precontest ... does it hurt something awful? i've heard it feels like you've been pounded by a sledgehammer

it is painful, i was doing 50mg 2x/day and injection sites were sore for days.

massmonster32 · Feb 23, 2005

Hey MikeS the Ip prop susp is awesome. But how is the scar tissue with you since you like it so much as well. I am gona try some NrutiV Oil based susp and see if it any easier on the body soon. Will let you know how it goes.

Steak Helmet · Feb 25, 2005

PHIL HERNON said:
Not everyone can be over 250. Nor is it safe for everyone to be over 250. Remember genetics plays a bigger role than we can imagine.

PHIL,

No worries I would not increase levels to jepordize my health. I never exceed 750mgs of test in a week. For me, if I exceed that 750, I notice the side effects kicking in more. I am going to take this process slow and controled.

Got Juice · Feb 25, 2005

yeah steak thats what it takes man. i was stuck at a measly 228 trying to hit 230 for the longest time. finally i quit lifting as much and started doing drugs.. lol.. that was a big mistake, but a fun year.. lol

anyways now im back off everythign and at a healthy 200.

peace,

GJ

MikeS · Feb 25, 2005

massmonster32 said:
Hey MikeS the Ip prop susp is awesome. But how is the scar tissue with you since you like it so much as well. I am gona try some NrutiV Oil based susp and see if it any easier on the body soon. Will let you know how it goes.

MM-no problem at all really. I run it through an entire cycle 3x wk for the last 2-3yrs of cycling. I alternate sites so I only hit 1 per wk. Also I always have another AS in the same pin, usually at least half/half.
Yes, please post your opinion on the new susp oil. Price effective? Hard to believe it can match up with IP.