Sex drive shut down big time - Please help!

[SPRINGWATER]

Hey guys,

I ran a test/tren cycle for about 3 months or so. The test was around a gram and the tren (enanthate) was at around 600. That was about 6 weeks ago. Since then all I have been running is 2 shots of sust 350 and 200mg NPP twice a week.

About half way through my test/tren cycle my sex drive shut down hard. I had an insane sex drive before that for about 2 months or so, and of course as it worked out, I had no one to use it on. Now that my sex drive is almost non existent, I honestly have 4 different women I could bang at any given time. One is technically my girlfriend. I can take a viagra and fuck her for well over an hour, but it's 50/50 weather I will cum or not. I have to concentrate like a master Zen monk to actually cum. It really sucks.

So, I figured my estrogen and prolactin were too high. I have been taking 20mg nolvadex eod. Also, I just started taking .5 caber eod for the past week. However, I ordered a liquid solution and I read that they can be very questionable.

Since running the nolva and caber for the past week or so, it has gone up slightly. I am wondering what you guys think my best course of action would be. There is one really sexy girl at my gym that blatantly told my friend that she wants to fuck, but for the first time in my life I am holding out until I can fix this problem. It's almost a double edge sword because I can fuck for sooo long, which obviously the women love, but it is tiresome for me. I'd rather be a minute man that go through this.

I am considering just getting some pharm grade caber. I am also considering running some arimidex to continue to lower my estrogen. I have no gyno whatsoever though. I know the tren/deca can shut you down, but I always run my test doses higher. I am kind of lost here as to what to do. How long does caber take to start working? I am going to the doctor in a few days to have blood work done. what type of tests should I ask for to see where my levels are at?

Any comments or advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

 

[bollman]

You may want to try hcg, proviron and pt-141. Works for me. Caber doesn't seem to help much.

 

[saps]

First get a blood test so you actually know where your levels are at. Them select the appropriate compounds based on the test results. I will concur that liquid caber is a waste of time and money. Manpower has some very legit stuff though if it turns out you genuinely need it.

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[SPRINGWATER]

You may want to try hcg, proviron and pt-141. Works for me. Caber doesn't seem to help much.

What a dummy I am.

I forgot to also add that I've been running 500mcg hcg per week throught my cycles and for the last 3 week 60-90mg proviron.

Despite all that I still have the sex drive of an 80 year old man

 

[SPRINGWATER]

First get a blood test so you actually know where your levels are at. Them select the appropriate compounds based on the test results. I will concur that liquid caber is a waste of time and money. Manpower has some very legit stuff though if it turns out you genuinely need it.

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Thanks bro.

What test specifically do I ask for?

 

[Reno911]

I'd get your estradiol checked. Should be 20-40 for proper sex drive and function. Im guessing yours is too high as estrogen will build over time w/ extended gear usage.

 

[jay_dub]

You'd rather be a minute man than fuck all night and wear yourself out? LOL Fuck that!! :banghead:

I'd rather get down all night long and impress the hell out of a girl than be done within a couple minutes.

Are you sure you're not married? lol

Edit: Sorry I'll admit I'm bringing absolutely nothing of value to this thread/your situation but I just dont get your mentality when you have 4 chicks to have fun with.

 

[SPRINGWATER]

I'd get your estradiol checked. Should be 20-40 for proper sex drive and function. Im guessing yours is too high as estrogen will build over time w/ extended gear usage.

Thank you very much.

What is used to combat too (high or low?) estradiol?

Thank you.

 

[Juiceboy44]

It might be the NPP.
I would discontinue that cause its similar to deca and deca always gives me bad deca dick.
It dies in the middle or at the best part and wont get up. Or like you said I'd really have to concentrate and try hard to finish or else I'd be there all day.
I never had issues with test and tren but I used tren acetate not enanthane.
I'd try the proviron and HCG like someone mentioned.

 

[aminofreak]

Liquid caber is junk. Pm me and I'll help help you out. I bet your problem is more prolactin related than estro. But yes you should still get blood work to know 4 sure.

 

[aminofreak]

Oh yea and drop the npp! Your just keeping prolactin elevated by running this. IMO stop the nolva as well and switch to aromasin 12.5mg every day.

 

[bodybuilder8806]

I get the same problem from nandrolone, the only thing that slightly works is caber which I take EOD if on nandrolone assuming estrogen is under control. Also nandrolone messes with DHT, so some proviron / masteron would be a nice addition to help out.

 

[SPRINGWATER]

You'd rather be a minute man than fuck all night and wear yourself out? LOL Fuck that!! :banghead:

I'd rather get down all night long and impress the hell out of a girl than be done within a couple minutes.

Are you sure you're not married? lol

Edit: Sorry I'll admit I'm bringing absolutely nothing of value to this thread/your situation but I just dont get your mentality when you have 4 chicks to have fun with.

Hahaha

Honestly, you are spot on bro. Right after my sex drive went, I started dating this chick and I would literally, no exaggeration, fuck her for 2 hours straight. She would genuinely ask me if I was a porn star. That was cool for about 2 weeks or so. Then you eventually just want to be reasonable and fuck for 15 minutes or so and bust. Then my ex from years ago, whom I still care about, came back into the picture. Same deal. Then a girl I used to sleep with (the best fuck of them all who would literally get me off in 30 fuckin seconds) came back around and I still couldn;t go. That's when I really started worrying.

But I completely understand where you are coming from. However, you eventually get selfish and just want to be able to cum without so much effort.

 

[SPRINGWATER]

Oh yea and drop the npp! Your just keeping prolactin elevated by running this. IMO stop the nolva as well and switch to aromasin 12.5mg every day.

Thanks bro.


May I ask what your reasoning is behind the aromasin? I am not well versed (as I def should be) on anti-estrogen and ancillary drugs.

 

[aminofreak]

A lot of people talk about no sex drive while using tamoxifen citrate. Same can be said with aromasin, but at only 12.5mg a day, you should be fine. Like I said in the pm I sent you, you dont want to eliminate estrogen or it's affects entirely, as it also plays a roll in sex drive and muscle gain. If estrogen is not the issue here, and your not gyno prone, I wouldn't run an AI at all. Just keep it on hand just in case. Run your caber at 1mg a week split till you start bustin nuts again!

 

[saps]

I realize ymmv but sometimes I think 19nors get an unfair rep for sexual problems. Since March 1 I've been on 500mg of npp a week and 140mg of tren-e. Last week I moved the tren also up to 500mg a week. If anything my sex drive was as good or better than before the introduction of the 19nors. Now granted I run a low dose of test and mast. That is 175test and 140 mast weekly. IMO/IME many problem guys run into are running higher doses of test. I'll further concede I do take .5mg of caber 2-3x a week. But as aforementioned I've got a higher libido now than on a gram of test.

The anorgasmia springwater seems to have does imply that caber might be the best solution. As aforementioned though it is all guess work without the blood test. Also some guys seem to think caber has a 1mg a week ceiling. Before I learned the benefits of low test and back when I falsely believe more test would solve deca dick issues I was running up to 3mg a week of caber. With legit caber the more you use the better so 2mg is better than 1mg for sexual purposes and 3mg is better than 2mg.

I'm not telling anyone my protocol is best. But having a bit of test in there as well as a bit of mast [DHT] will only assist sexual functioning. The caber then becomes the cherry on top and safeguard for prolactin/dopamine support.

 

[SPRINGWATER]

Thanks for all the replies and advice guys.


Can someone list specifically what tests I need to have done? What should I specifically ask for?

Thanks!

 

[johnjuanb1]

MT2, CLOMID (HIGH DOSE), CIALIS

 

[Chris31]

Oh yea and drop the npp! Your just keeping prolactin elevated by running this. IMO stop the nolva as well and switch to aromasin 12.5mg every day.

:yeahthat:

 

[raw33man]

MT2, CLOMID (HIGH DOSE), CIALIS

clomid high dose makes me so emotional... I wanna watch twilight and titanic on clomid