Should non-athletes be allowed to compete just because they paid the entry fee?

[cage99]

The hair says it all… I can’t take anyone seriously with blue hair. Then again I’m pushing 50, do maybe I’m just an old guy with an outdated view.

Cage

 

[Thebiggestdumbass]

My argument would be that because something involves using the body and it is difficult, doesn't mean it’s a sport or those who do it are athletes.

During prep you build posing stamina so when you step on stage you can out pose the guy next to you.

Sounds pretty similar to a ball player practicing during the off season

But you didn’t address my reply to your comment:

I do not agree that posing is an athletic endeavor.

Posing is the most athletic thing bodybuilders do.

I can’t run a 6 minute mile or do sprints but I can pose because the sport I enjoy competing on requires that specific skill.

At this point I think you’re being obtuse for the sake of it so think what you will.

 

[gib68sg]

The hair says it all… I can’t take anyone seriously with blue hair. Then again I’m pushing 50, do maybe I’m just an old guy with an outdated view.

Cage

Reminds me of the episode of south park where they sneak into cartman’s room while he’s sleeping and turn him into a ginger lol. So he changes all of his viewpoints to defend gingers.

But I do agree with you on the blue hair thing lol just made me think of that

 

[Jefe]

At this point I think you’re being OBTUSE for the sake of it so think what you will.

Thank you for using that word.

Please drop it more often. I’m pumped!!

gotta enjoy the little things in life

 

[bbxtreme]

I think part of the problem and difficulty is it is hard to define bodybuilder. I have been lifting for 20 years, id never consider myself a bodybuilder.

I have a lot more clarity on your post here now.

 

[Mr_Texasrunnerup]

Your entitled to your opinion. Id say your combat sports participation would make you an athlete. Your 17 competioms and 300x8 rows i don't consider athletic. Your simply strength training, thats not a sport to me and moving heavy weight demonstrates strength not athletic ability.

Strength is a key component of the definition of athlete. Powerlifters and strongmen are definitely athletes. If strength does not matter, then speed and agility don't either. Endurance is also a key component and involved in higher reps and cardio.

 

[Mr_Texasrunnerup]

There’s so much dumb ass shit in this post dude. Just stop

I would strongly recommend you take this person's advice.

I do S and C for combat athletes (many elite) and weight training significantly improves their performance. Thus weight training itself a critical component of being an athlete.

 

[qbkilla]

I have a lot more clarity on your post here now.

Yeah, I've never referred to myself as a bodybuilder. More of a guy who is obsessed with working out. When I was doing 5x5 I didn't consider myself a power lifter.

From your perspective as a successful competitive bodybuilder, im curious how you view this. Guys who just show up to the gym regularly to lift and watch their diet, would you call them bodybuilders? Or just guys who workout?

I feel like there has to be a line somewhere between fitness and bodybuilding.

 

[UnholyAlliance]

Wasn't there any show where there was someone on stage who didn't quite fit in? Props to this kid for being brave however.

 

[Chinaski]

My son has Down Syndrome and has competed. He trains just as hard as anyone else. Of course he should be allowed to compete.

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Your son is a bad ass. He did something most people don’t have the discipline or ability to do if they tried. Hats off to him, and to you as a father for setting the example

 

[bbxtreme]

Yeah, I've never referred to myself as a bodybuilder. More of a guy who is obsessed with working out. When I was doing 5x5 I didn't consider myself a power lifter.

From your perspective as a successful competitive bodybuilder, im curious how you view this. Guys who just show up to the gym regularly to lift and watch their diet, would you call them bodybuilders? Or just guys who workout?

I feel like there has to be a line somewhere between fitness and bodybuilding.

It’s my opinion that there are very few real bodybuilders in gyms. Most are there to “stay in shape” or “stay healthy”.

To build one’s body or add muscle is no easy task. It takes a lot of work, discipline and athleticism.

Then you have guys who compete. That level of dedication is multiplied to a whole new level most cannot understand.

Then you have those who are aiming to be or are pro. That’s an obsession and entirely different level.

You could line them up like someone who plays football with the boys for social time all the way to someone like Tom Brady.

In your defense it’s hard to understand something you have not done or attempted to do. And that’s not a knock.

The same is true about me on the other end- I can’t understand why so many people go to the gym and go through the process and invest the time to still look like garbage year after year.

If you’re going to do something- do it to your fullest potential.

 

[dieselbuilder]

I would strongly recommend you take this person's advice.

I do S and C for combat athletes (many elite) and weight training significantly improves their performance. Thus weight training itself a critical component of being an athlete.

Uhhh bro.. respectfully everyone who trains in combat sports knows that S&C helps and are aware of it.

Saying that it’s qbkilla’s advice and I should follow it assumes I don’t do S&C nor know to do it. It also makes it seem like it’s like his advice and no one else’s when everyone knows about it.

That’s like me saying something as obvious as “hey bro don’t eat junk food to not get fat” and then someone tells you to follow my advice… you would be like yea no shit everyone knows that

 

[SouthernMuscle]

Not that I care or give a shit about forum mechanics, but I’ve nevvver seen a person have more just disliked or ridiculous opinions/perspectives than Qbkilla

Like you’ve been on forums for like 20 years man and literally NO ONE agrees with u on basically anyyything, ever LOL it’s mind blowing the stances you take on shit. I trullly wonder what you’re like in person

just wanted to quote this so it could also be on the next page. I love it

 

[OldManLogan]

It’s my opinion that there are very few real bodybuilders in gyms. Most are there to “stay in shape” or “stay healthy”.

To build one’s body or add muscle is no easy task. It takes a lot of work, discipline and athleticism.

Then you have guys who compete. That level of dedication is multiplied to a whole new level most cannot understand.

Then you have those who are aiming to be or are pro. That’s an obsession and entirely different level.

You could line them up like someone who plays football with the boys for social time all the way to someone like Tom Brady.

In your defense it’s hard to understand something you have not done or attempted to do. And that’s not a knock.

The same is true about me on the other end- I can’t understand why so many people go to the gym and go through the process and invest the time to still look like garbage year after year.

If you’re going to do something- do it to your fullest potential.

There’s so much truth here, and so much context - definitely great points. I’ve had conversations lately with some gym regulars who I know haven’t changed what they look like at all, and one guy told me something they definitely made me go “ahhhh…” he said he trains to simply stay in the shape he’s in and mobile, not to grow or become stronger- he’s happy with where he’s at-,so definitely, people’s goals and process will vary wildly.

Then again, there’s some people that are gymbros on Dbol and God knows what else, looking like shit and never changing, then they come up to you and ask “what’s the secret”- and we all know there is no secret. In the end, it all boils down to nutrition, rest and recovery and proper training methods, over a long period of time, with progressive overload.

And those dudes tend to be the same ones that say “if I did steroids like you, I’d blow up”.

 

[qbkilla]

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just wanted to quote this so it could also be on the next page. I love it

Just like to debate sports, politics, training programs...diets...whatever. sometimes i change my opinions...usually nott lol....time to get high pass out... pull day tomorrow

 

[SouthernMuscle]

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Just like to debate sports, politics, training programs...diets...whatever. sometimes i change my opinions...usually nott lol....time to get high pass out... pull day tomorrow

 

[Worldsfastestfatty]

When it comes to open competitions, in any sport, there's generally a set of rules you have to abide by - however rarely does it actually stipulate you have to be any good at the sport in question!

From a purely legal point of view - turning this guy away could have been seen as discrimination.

I say - let them compete, take their money. Worst that can happen is it makes the prize pot bigger.

For a sport that essentially involves dancing around on stage in women's underwear we all take it far too seriously anyways!

 

[traininsane11]

When it comes to open competitions, in any sport, there's generally a set of rules you have to abide by - however rarely does it actually stipulate you have to be any good at the sport in question!

From a purely legal point of view - turning this guy away could have been seen as discrimination.

I say - let them compete, take their money. Worst that can happen is it makes the prize pot bigger.

For a sport that essentially involves dancing around on stage in women's underwear we all take it far too seriously anyways!

Speak for yourself! I’ve not taken it seriously enough but now my full identity is based around dancing on stage in women’s underwear

Gotta do whatever it takes, right babe?!