site pinning

kscowboy · Sep 17, 2009

Just wondering if anyone site pins? I have been reading some of muscle trainees ideas about site pinning. He says that muscles that are pinned, actually do have a slight bit more growth than just pinning it in your ass. So even though it might just be a slight difference, wouldnt it be better than just wasting it in your ass? Who site pins?

Thick1 · Sep 17, 2009

Site injections will not cause your muscles to grow unless you follow as if you were injecting syntherol but since you are injecting gear into yourself that would be insane.

If site injecting gear was true then we would have a lot of us with huge glutes and quads.

VTliftVT · Sep 18, 2009

The "site growth" will be temporary and due to inflammation. You will not get site growth from your everyday pinning. Look at some of Dats write ups by doing a search regarding the possibility of site growth (as mentioned on the previous post) by adding a test base to syntherol.

Beerado4u · Sep 24, 2009

yea i believe site pinning for growth is bs. Your body has to metabolize it like everything else. this is why i think helios isnt what it supposed to be...i still love that stuff tho

PsyT · Sep 24, 2009

wouldn't inflammation increase leverage (by increasing size/angle of the muscle) and thus allow the user to lift more (which would promote increased hypertrophy given proper diet)?

I feel like this happens to me with my quads, they get inflammed when I inject a ml of prop into them and this increases the leverage allowing me to lift more. I could be wrong though.

1bigun11 · Sep 24, 2009

I think the site pinning=isolated growth theory is bs.

On the other hand, strength is largely mental; thus, if you believe it makes you stronger, you will tend to lift more, which in turn WILL make you stronger.

maldorf · Sep 24, 2009

Only reason to site pin is so that you have more injections sites so that scar tissue doesnt build up. if youre only doing 1 or 2 injetcions a week then all you need is quads and/or glutes. If youre doing a short ester like prop then youre going to need to do EOD injections and will want more sites to spread out the trauma of the shots so that the areas dont get hard with scar tissue. If you even try to inject into scar tissue, the liquid wont even go in. Its like hitting concrete.

gstracer · Sep 24, 2009

as for scar tissue goes thats why i only use 25 gauges pins it take longer to inject but the pin is so small it would take a while to build up scar tissue inmo.

maldorf · Sep 25, 2009

gstracer said:
as for scar tissue goes thats why i only use 25 gauges pins it take longer to inject but the pin is so small it would take a while to build up scar tissue inmo.

Certainly helps. Personally I never had the patience and used 23 guage. I think most find 23 gauge to be the best compromise. 22 gauge is best for drawing.

kscowboy · Sep 25, 2009

What does everyone recommend for pinning glutes, quads, bi's, calves and traps?

maldorf · Sep 25, 2009

kscowboy said:
What does everyone recommend for pinning glutes, quads, bi's, calves and traps?

Youre crazy if you are doing calves and traps. No reason to mess with those. As others have said here, the belief that muscles will grow more at the site of injection is hogwash. 23 gauge works for all.

kscowboy · Sep 25, 2009

would a 25g 1" be sufficient for bi's, delts and quads, and a 25g 1 1/2" for glutes?

No traps or calves?

maldorf · Sep 25, 2009

kscowboy said:
would a 25g 1" be sufficient for bi's, delts and quads, and a 25g 1 1/2" for glutes?

No traps or calves?

Wondering why you are wanting to do site injections. Are you using a short ester that requires every other day (EOD) injections? That is really the only reason to, and even then you dont need all that many sites. I would stick with just quads and glutes if you can. If you did each muscle once per week that would still allow you to do 4 injections in a week which is plenty.
I suppose 25 gauge works. Its going to take a hell of a long time to get the oil to pass through that. I would just stick with 23 gauge myself. Youll want to draw the injection from the vial with another pin. Use a 22 or 23 gauge to do that. Using 2 pins will make sure you have a nice sharp one for your injection. Breaking the stopper with the pin you draw with will make it dull. Drawing with a 22 is good.
1 inch suffices for all sites. If youre new to this check out site injections dot com.

kscowboy · Sep 25, 2009

Yes i am going to be using test prop and npp. SO i will need to pin both of them EOD. This is going to be a short cycle of about 2 to 3 weeks. SO i want as many sites as possible since i will be pinning quite a bit. Thanks for the help.

gstracer · Sep 25, 2009

1 inch 25 g is what I use for delta and quads. I've only done bis with igf and that shit hurt so I can't imagine shooting gear in my bis. I did 1 cc in my tri once and man that shit hurt alot too. Personally I did a whole cycle Ed pinning and I just used delts, glutes, and quads. I mean u would only hit 1 site twice a weeks with those so... I don't think u really need anymore site personally

maldorf · Sep 25, 2009

gstracer said:
1 inch 25 g is what I use for delta and quads. I've only done bis with igf and that shit hurt so I can't imagine shooting gear in my bis. I did 1 cc in my tri once and man that shit hurt alot too. Personally I did a whole cycle Ed pinning and I just used delts, glutes, and quads. I mean u would only hit 1 site twice a weeks with those so... I don't think u really need anymore site personally

23 gauge in the biceps is fine too. Takes getting used to. REALLY easy to hit nerves when you go to biceps. You will know it when you hit one. Pretty sharp pain and your arm goes numb for a sec and feels like electricty. If that happens youll need to pull out and hit another spot. when doing that be extra careful not to touch the needle to any surface other than the new injection site as you do not want to contaminate it and make it unsterile.

swedemiester77 · Sep 25, 2009

So are shoulders more or less painful than quads? I have no problem with glutes, so it's not the gear, but when I do quads the area around it (6" radius) is sore for up to 2 days. Am I just doing something wrong? I have to pin 3 times a week, so should I just do all glutes?

gstracer · Sep 25, 2009

try the delts sometimes im sore the day of but not too bad the next day sometimes shots are worst then others ive had plenty of glut quad delt shots painless, and then again ive had many that hurt like a bitch the next day all with the same gear so.... i always heat up the gear with a heating pad and inject slow and every .5 cc i turn the needle about a quarter turn to disperse the oil more then in just one spot. but i also shoot 3 cc most the time.