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Social media and transparency- unemployable

I’ve also seen comments about people that lack social media are seen more so as pariahs to some extent. Like they’re less than desirable candidates because they don’t socialize through the internet.
I would imagine it’s like credit history, sure you may have a great score but if you haven’t actually bought anything then there’s nothing to back the score. If you have no social media it’s hard to get a feel for the person, buts that’s also why there are references, previous employers, etc. I’d imagine it’s easier for a company to gauge you as a person if you have socials but not a deal breakers by any means
 
I’m covered in tattoos myself… Just don’t get the negative stigma that’s still exists in the workplace.

It stems from the boomer generation and older ones before that… So in time I believe that’ll all disappear. My pops is one of those assholes who wouldn’t hire someone if a tattoo was visible.

My old man can’t stand all the ink I have covering me… I make sure I’m in a stringer tank whenever I see him. The once every 6-10 years…. Obviously we don’t see eye to eye…. lol

Cage
I still think, even with the older gen gone, if it comes down to two equally qualified applicants amount/type/position of tattoos COULD come into play decision time.
 
I’m from the school of thought that employers should be able to screen however they seem fit and hire whoever they want. I’m a business owner. I’ll be the first one to tell you I screen carefully who I hire however I see fit. It’s my show I run it how I want. If someone has tattoos and piercings all over their face I won’t consider them. The guys have to deal with customers and a lot of older people who get freaked out by that stuff which could cost me business: if they weren’t in any type of customer service I would care what they looked like at all.
 
I’m from the school of thought that employers should be able to screen however they seem fit and hire whoever they want. I’m a business owner. I’ll be the first one to tell you I screen carefully who I hire however I see fit. It’s my show I run it how I want. If someone has tattoos and piercings all over their face I won’t consider them. The guys have to deal with customers and a lot of older people who get freaked out by that stuff which could cost me business: if they weren’t in any type of customer service I would care what they looked like at all.
Well let’s remove facial tattoos off the table… I love tattoos, but would NEVER EVER get facial tattoos… That’s a line you don’t cross unless you’re in the club scene, artists, underground work, etc.

I totally get not hiring someone with multiple face tattoos if they’re dealing with gen pop.

Cage
 
Well let’s remove facial tattoos off the table… I love tattoos, but would NEVER EVER get facial tattoos… That’s a line you don’t cross unless you’re in the club scene, artists, underground work, etc.

I totally get not hiring someone with multiple face tattoos if they’re dealing with gen pop.

Cage
You could get work in movies as a gang members. 👍
 
I still think, even with the older gen gone, if it comes down to two equally qualified applicants amount/type/position of tattoos COULD come into play decision time.
I guess it all comes down to the person doing the hiring… If they hold some bias which let’s not kid ourselves, we all do to some extent, then certain things will will cost us opportunities. Whether it be in our control or out of our control.

Cage
 
You could get work in movies as a gang members. 👍
Very true! When I see shows, IE, Law & Order:Special Victims Unit, and see dudes with complete face tattoos I wonder if it’s real or fake…

Now the next level shit is the people that have complete face tattoos AND those implants! Like the spikes under their skin, stuff like that… So bizarre to me! But to each their own!

Cage

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I see being open publicly about your PED use as only a liability/risk unless you’re self employed and you public image doesn’t matter or have fuck you money. I really admire those in that position.

I love tattoos and steroids but I keep my tattoos where they can all be covered by wearing a shirt and I’m only fully open about steroids in an anonymous setting. That’s just life in the United States culture.
 
People are absolutely ruining their professional opportunities on social media. Anything where you can be identified should be treated as your personal brand and intentionally marketed accordingly. Everything else should be done anonymously. The veil of privacy will be rolled back further and further as we go along so it is definitely smart to stay ahead of that.
 
People are absolutely ruining their professional opportunities on social media. Anything where you can be identified should be treated as your personal brand and intentionally marketed accordingly. Everything else should be done anonymously. The veil of privacy will be rolled back further and further as we go along so it is definitely smart to stay ahead of that.
To each their own I suppose but oh how the times have changed.

Even in the early to mid 2000s people were paranoid about having their privacy intruded on. Now they are more than willing to share everything about themselves with total strangers, and that is just what they know of.

Truth is our data is sold any time we get on the web with a device that is linked to us. However, when it comes to social media, I still prefer not to put any of my personal biz on display and that includes any of the good stuff along with the not so good stuff.

Its def a different time and I get why people do it. It makes them feel like they are a star or sort of celebrity even if its really just in their head or isolated to a small group of people. If you really get the views and create viral content, yeah, its a money maker and you can sell complete dog shit and still make money. Its all about the # of views.
 
To each their own I suppose but oh how the times have changed.

Even in the early to mid 2000s people were paranoid about having their privacy intruded on. Now they are more than willing to share everything about themselves with total strangers, and that is just what they know of.

Truth is our data is sold any time we get on the web with a device that is linked to us. However, when it comes to social media, I still prefer not to put any of my personal biz on display and that includes any of the good stuff along with the not so good stuff.

Its def a different time and I get why people do it. It makes them feel like they are a star or sort of celebrity even if its really just in their head or isolated to a small group of people. If you really get the views and create viral content, yeah, its a money maker and you can sell complete dog shit and still make money. Its all about the # of views.
Facts. I don’t this people understand the repercussions. I hire a lot of people and go straight to their social and many careers have been stopped in their tracks based on what I read. These are high six figure life changing opportunities so I’m not taking risks with who I hire. The reality is a social media profile is a great window into a person’s personality and can also polarize a person who has a great deal of say in your future. Your social media should be like vanilla ice cream, nobody loves it, but nobody hates. That’s the sweet spot.
 
I think they do it for attention. To these kids it’s like smoking a blunt on a post. They think it’s cool. Personally I think it stupid.
 
The other day at work me and one of my co-workers were talking about different fitness YouTubers and social media accounts we watch and got to the topic of influencers who openly show how they inject, vials, openly admit to AAS use, etc. Outside of professional bodybuilders, I feel like this is becoming more and more common with individuals 25 and younger. I’m curious if you think they realize the ramifications their actions have?

I’m gonna make 2 assumptions, the first being that 99.9% of them aren’t going to make an income off of their physique. While they may gain temporary views or clicks from catchy titles or videos, the majority will not become professional bodybuilders and will fall off over time. The second assumption is they will be unemployable, something about the fact that they are openly committing felonies makes me think that.

I’d make an argument AAS use is more socially acceptable than in previous decades, but still it is illegal(in most countries). To go off this I have two questions, has your AAS use ever affected your ability to get a job? I’d imagine if you’re somewhat discrete/not openly admitting to everyone it has not. And the second being do you think there is any positivity to transparency on social media?
Nobody cares anymore. This isn't 1991. Most everyday people even non lifters understand the steroids are pretty benign and should be fully legalized.
 
Facts. I don’t this people understand the repercussions. I hire a lot of people and go straight to their social and many careers have been stopped in their tracks based on what I read. These are high six figure life changing opportunities so I’m not taking risks with who I hire. The reality is a social media profile is a great window into a person’s personality and can also polarize a person who has a great deal of say in your future. Your social media should be like vanilla ice cream, nobody loves it, but nobody hates. That’s the sweet spot.
Honestly the social media of most Human Resource managers I’ve met are way sketchier than anything I’ve got. Some might be criminal. Lol
 
Honestly the social media of most Human Resource managers I’ve met are way sketchier than anything I’ve got. Some might be criminal. Lol
Most recruiters in HR are former bottle service girls who decided to not go into real estate lol
 
If you must use social media, make sure you use a completely separate email address to establish the account other than the one you use for job applications and bussiness purposes.

Even then, I really dont trust yahoo. I think they would give up information to the feds in a heartbeat, the same way google and twitter do.

I have contemplated giving up google chrome completely ( I havent been able to since it seems to be the best search engine around).

If you use google and youtube, you must assume they have a complete record of every website you have ever visited and keep a log of every comment you ever made on youtube. And I would not for a second consider using Google Gmail for anything.

I used Nord VPN for about a year but it was slowing my internet speed down too much.
 
The other day at work me and one of my co-workers were talking about different fitness YouTubers and social media accounts we watch and got to the topic of influencers who openly show how they inject, vials, openly admit to AAS use, etc. Outside of professional bodybuilders, I feel like this is becoming more and more common with individuals 25 and younger. I’m curious if you think they realize the ramifications their actions have?

I’m gonna make 2 assumptions, the first being that 99.9% of them aren’t going to make an income off of their physique. While they may gain temporary views or clicks from catchy titles or videos, the majority will not become professional bodybuilders and will fall off over time. The second assumption is they will be unemployable, something about the fact that they are openly committing felonies makes me think that.

I’d make an argument AAS use is more socially acceptable than in previous decades, but still it is illegal(in most countries). To go off this I have two questions, has your AAS use ever affected your ability to get a job? I’d imagine if you’re somewhat discrete/not openly admitting to everyone it has not. And the second being do you think there is any positivity to transparency on social media?
It's like with anything. You put it out there for the world to see, It will live on. Your current employment may not care, but what most of these younger guys may not be thinking about is what we post today, may haunt us tomorrow. Look at all the people they "cancelled" on twitter many years back. They scrolled back almost a decade to find dirt. So, the angle I don't think they are looking at is jealous coworkers, competitors for a promotion, child custody, things like that. It will probably not be an issue for most of people, but its good to take a minute to consider all possible outcomes
 
My old GM at one of the most high end globo gyms got shamed out when people started running around showing some old artsy soft core porn she did. She was from the Cali and DNGAF (had told me about the movies before, and I'm sure others when it directly came up). I think the issue was more with the snooty east coast elite attitudes of that gym. Think that in most of these situations 95% of people don't care or have the time to judge, but it is that remaining 5% that sink you.
 

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