Someone called me a name and now I'm gonna shoot myself.

[BigBoyJ]

I've been reading how sensitive everyone has been lately. People are whining about being misunderstood, called names, having their pics criticized, having their spouses pics criticized, etc. It seems having an opinion is becoming a bad thing and if you have one, you're just asking for trouble. Everyone says "if you don't like it, don't comment." Well, fuck that. If YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR OPINIONS THEN YOU DON'T SPEAK OR POST PICS!! Don't expect to put up pics of something controversial, or say something that other people could disagree with and expect for everyone to just shut up about it. You guys are grown ass men and women. If you are so sensitive that you are emotionally hurt by what someone on the internet says then you really need a good ol' fashioned kick in the ass. Does it really mean a fuckin' thing what anyone else thinks? I mean, I personally like a good argument. I think it's good mental stimulation. It's entertaining and just a good time for the whole family. Making threats and personal insults isn't good, but having opinions is. Don't be so soft, it's gonna be ok.

 

[Vander_V]

WORD

 

[massmonster32]

It is the internet WHAWHAWHA. Your right on that post BBJ can even voice your opinion about a pro now days or you get the third degree lately. MM

 

[casper78]

absolutely

i was gonna make a comment b but since i am new i thought that was how the board always was. i like people that shoot from the hip.

 

[BigBoyJ]

i was gonna make a comment b but since i am new i thought that was how the board always was. i like people that shoot from the hip.

No, man. It's not always like this. I don't know what the problem is. I think the estrogen levels have been up too high lately or something. I really hate anything that resembles political correctness and I make it a point to destroy it whenever I can. We can't let this become a place where people are afraid to give their opinions.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Exactly

No, man. It's not always like this. I don't know what the problem is. I think the estrogen levels have been up too high lately or something. I really hate anything that resembles political correctness and I make it a point to destroy it whenever I can. We can't let this become a place where people are afraid to give their opinions.

In every facet of life, people will argue. In the end, they always seem to resovle it. I was arguing with TPFU all week, but we deleted our posts and moved on after we apologised to each other. I hate to see people walk on eggshells because they are afraid to speak their mind. I think people like controversy. I posted an update on a scientific advance on synthetic HDL and it got no responses. People are more interested in who IRONMAN is or what people are better BBers than others. People look to myself and other leaders of this site to provide information, then when we do we get questioned, called a liar, or it is disregarded all together. Some people think I make hidden remarks, attacking them. These same people say that I am the only one that is allowed to speak my mind???? Look, if I dont like your pictures of your wife, daughter, mother naked, I WILL COME RIGHT OUT AND TELL YOU. I WILL NOT BEAT AROUND THE BUSH, SO QUIT MAKING UP SHIT IN YOUR MINDS. Speak your minds, we are not 3rd graders here that need to be scrutinized with every letter that comes to the screen.

 

[BigBoyJ]

In every facet of life, people will argue. In the end, they always seem to resovle it. I was arguing with TPFU all week, but we deleted our posts and moved on after we apologised to each other. I hate to see people walk on eggshells because they are afraid to speak their mind. I think people like controversy. I posted an update on a scientific advance on synthetic HDL and it got no responses. People are more interested in who IRONMAN is or what people are better BBers than others. People look to myself and other leaders of this site to provide information, then when we do we get questioned, called a liar, or it is disregarded all together. Some people think I make hidden remarks, attacking them. These same people say that I am the only one that is allowed to speak my mind???? Look, if I dont like your pictures of your wife, daughter, mother naked, I WILL COME RIGHT OUT AND TELL YOU. I WILL NOT BEAT AROUND THE BUSH, SO QUIT MAKING UP SHIT IN YOUR MINDS. Speak your minds, we are not 3rd graders here that need to be scrutinized with every letter that comes to the screen.

Exactly. I didn't even see the post on synthetic hdl. I'm also a person who doesn't mind saying what I think. For some reason though, Phil, you seem to get a lot of shit for your opinions. I think one problem is people think you are holding back info on them. A lot of people seem to think you know special bodybuilding secrets that will be the magic formula to new growth and definition. Then you post something so damn simple and basic and people wonder why you aren't telling the truth about what you know. They don't realize that simple and basic is what bodybuilding is about. Low dose gh, moderate amounts of gear, a good diet, intense training with compound movements. These are things that make success. But still, people are pissed because you aren't giving out the magic formulas. The truth is, you KNOW what works. I know you do because I've been following a lot of your previous advice and it's all true.

As for getting shit about criticizing peoples pics and stuff, well again, if people don't want pics criticized, don't post 'em. People seem to have a problem with your morality. You don't like the thought of your daughters or wife being on the internet naked. Honestly, I think it's a little ridiculous to criticize someone for that. I wouldn't want a woman who wanted to be on the internet nude. That's how I feel. If someone else likes that....fine, but don't tell me I'm closed minded and ignorant because I would prefer to keep my wife's nude body to myself. I also don't understand how a man would want a woman who wants to be seen nude by other men. That's just me though and I really don't give a shit who's nude on the internet, but if I feel the need to comment on it then I damn sure will.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

I know, and it baffles me

Exactly. I didn't even see the post on synthetic hdl. I'm also a person who doesn't mind saying what I think. For some reason though, Phil, you seem to get a lot of shit for your opinions. I think one problem is people think you are holding back info on them. A lot of people seem to think you know special bodybuilding secrets that will be the magic formula to new growth and definition. Then you post something so damn simple and basic and people wonder why you aren't telling the truth about what you know. They don't realize that simple and basic is what bodybuilding is about. Low dose gh, moderate amounts of gear, a good diet, intense training with compound movements. These are things that make success. But still, people are pissed because you aren't giving out the magic formulas. The truth is, you KNOW what works. I know you do because I've been following a lot of your previous advice and it's all true.

As for getting shit about criticizing peoples pics and stuff, well again, if people don't want pics criticized, don't post 'em. People seem to have a problem with your morality. You don't like the thought of your daughters or wife being on the internet naked. Honestly, I think it's a little ridiculous to criticize someone for that. I wouldn't want a woman who wanted to be on the internet nude. That's how I feel. If someone else likes that....fine, but don't tell me I'm closed minded and ignorant because I would prefer to keep my wife's nude body to myself. I also don't understand how a man would want a woman who wants to be seen nude by other men. That's just me though and I really don't give a shit who's nude on the internet, but if I feel the need to comment on it then I damn sure will.

Another thing struck me yesterday. PassionateBBer, one of the few ladies on here, told us that something offended her. Maybe we should have an XXX section on here?? This way people can post pics in that section, and we dont have to look unless we actually WANT TO. I think we would have more ladies on here interested in BBing if we kept it BBing. There is a fine line I realize this, but we all know where the line is.

 

[xcelbeyond]

Nobody here is trying to restrict what you can say - as long as you abide by the rules, which means NO FLAMING. Start with name-calling or putting someone down (flaming - in other words) and we'll either lock it, erase it, warn you, or ban you, based on the specific circumstance.

People come here to get info on a variety of subjects. Take Synterol (SEO) as an example. Many people have come here to find out about it and how to properly use it. MANY have also felt it their place to tell these people how stupid they are for considering it. Stuff like this WILL NOT be tolerated. There is a fine line for sure - but if you don't draw the line, posts will go rampant, as has been demonstrated in the past.

 

[PassionateBB]

Phil, the pictures didn't offend me. It was the placement of them in that contest and how the other girl would feel about that. It wasn't offensive to me. I just thought it was in poor taste in that context. And as I said, not everyone wants to see naked pics of people's significant other. As a female, I don't visit the X forum on MM unless it's to post a funny pic to piss the guys off. LOL.

An X section is a good idea, if your sponsors/advertisers don't mind. Hell, I may even contribute! Haha! NOT.

Something else to ponder. You have a women's section but it's sometimes guys who post pics of who is hot, etc. in that section. Or they are guys looking for gear/supps info and guys respond. That isn't much to attract women to that section. Granted, there aren't alot of female members. But if the section is dominated by who guys think is hot or male to male convos, it's going to turn some girls off. They won't feel like they have their own special place. I don't know if that makes sense. Need more coffee.

 

[rAJJIN]

whoop whoop
I deffinatley beleive people are going to disagree and have differant opinions
and should speak how they feel..BUT like Xcel says, It has to be done with a bit of respect for one another...(were all on the same team here)

Maybe we dont need a XXX forum but A Flame Forum. Ive only seen realy 1 thread were some comments were made that crossed that line, and it was taken care of between them in less then one day...haha sometimes we just have to get it out of our systems.

And whats the Big Fugging deal if someone wants to Post some tits and ass?
maybe we need a Poll to get the majority Vote so we can drop this already??
seems the Owner BigA and the staff have no problem with it..Only a select few it realy seems to bother.

 

[JustWannaBeHuge]

Phil, the pictures didn't offend me. It was the placement of them in that contest and how the other girl would feel about that. It wasn't offensive to me. I just thought it was in poor taste in that context. And as I said, not everyone wants to see naked pics of people's significant other. As a female, I don't visit the X forum on MM unless it's to post a funny pic to piss the guys off. LOL.

An X section is a good idea, if your sponsors/advertisers don't mind. Hell, I may even contribute! Haha! NOT.

Something else to ponder. You have a women's section but it's sometimes guys who post pics of who is hot, etc. in that section. Or they are guys looking for gear/supps info and guys respond. That isn't much to attract women to that section. Granted, there aren't alot of female members. But if the section is dominated by who guys think is hot or male to male convos, it's going to turn some girls off. They won't feel like they have their own special place. I don't know if that makes sense. Need more coffee.

and here I was starting to get excited then you say you won't post any hehe.

after reading your last paragraph, I feel bad because I was one of the guys that was tripping over a young lady that someone posted pics of, and you're right, that section isn't for us to post pics of women for us to say if she's "hot" or "not", its for the women bbers on here to chat and give out knowledge to each other, and I do apologize for that.

maybe a mod can even move that post, so that it doesn't look like that section is just for us high test bastards to judge women on their bodies. just a thought.

JW

 

[anthony roberts]

I run the anabolic forums on MindandMuscle.net, and the dripping pussies there whine about me to the admin all the time, because I speak my mind.

Anyone who has a mind and speaks it is going to have people complain about them.

If everyone likes you, then you're probably some mindless drone...

 

[bigbaldbulldog]

I posted an update on a scientific advance on synthetic HDL and it got no responses. People are more interested in who IRONMAN is or what people are better BBers than others..

Phil this is what i was getting at...people want drama not information and education... a little bs is fine and good but it seems this board is headed in the same direction musclemayham took....and this board and its members are too good for that we are above all the petty stuff and we want to be better people for it ...

like all families they have their differences and kiss and make up so here is a big smooch to all ya who love to hate me...

 

[xcelbeyond]

Something else to ponder. You have a women's section but it's sometimes guys who post pics of who is hot, etc. in that section. Or they are guys looking for gear/supps info and guys respond. That isn't much to attract women to that section. Granted, there aren't alot of female members. But if the section is dominated by who guys think is hot or male to male convos, it's going to turn some girls off. They won't feel like they have their own special place. I don't know if that makes sense. Need more coffee.

I agree! I moved that one post and will look closer at the other posts there.

 

[Got Juice]

here my opinion on the board wether it matters or not...

i work in a corporate enviroment mon-fri 9 hours a day.. in that 45 hours per week while im there, i have to be the most polotically correct mother fuc***, i cant talk polotics, i cant make a biased joke, i can blech, i cant fart aloud, i cant view emails that arent within certain guidelines... this is my escape from that where i can get on here, say what i want, fart while im on my computer, possibly see a thread with a nice ass in a thong and then make a comment on that ass.... this is how it should be IMHO...

 

[OuchThatHurts]

BBJ

Good post. I agree. Even though I'm still pissed at you for bitch-slapping me the other day, I can live with it you poignant bastard. I was in a mood, and I needed brought back. So let's ALL just go on with the business of learning from each other.

The mods (including myself) are going to start moving threads when they are innappropriate to the forum. I will suggest to the mods that in regards to the female forum (which I never even go) that male members only post there to give their advice and possibly not even be permitted to post at all. I mean, cmon, that's the ladies room you pervs! You know, the door with the little dress on it? You need to use the other door. Not to mention that I like that there should be a place for JUST women to discuss how wonderful and dreamy I am.

Regarding the business as of late... that ends now. All the mods are going to begin taking a firm stance on inflammatory posts and they will be deleted with extreme prejudice.

Not sure about an XXX forum. The idea that the mature and intelligent members of ProM should even need such a place is a little absurd. We're all adults here... *long sigh* lets try to act that way?

 

[StoryOfTheYear]

I just wanted to say I think everyone is real cool here and give a lot of good advice, and even make me laugh....like seriously laugh HARD sometimes. Definately the best forum , people-wise and information-wise ive seen. -StOrY-

 

[anthony roberts]

This is why I call half the boards on the net "MySpAASe"

You know? Like "MySpace.com"...but with AAS in it...

People use the AAS boards now-adays as their social outlet, their dating pool, etc...it's kind of sad...

 

[Kaiser]

If someone makes threats, I think they should be banned. That crap's just not acceptable. Name calling is usually pretty much harmless, but if it does lead to threats, it should definitely be ended. What I freakin' hate though is when someone gets their feelings hurt and has to go crying to a mod. Good lord, a 250 or whatever pound guy going and telling on someone is a little stupid.

Anyone who knows me knows I've been in my share of flame wars. I would bet there isn't anyone on any bodybuilding board who's been in as many flame wars as me. I'm talking people threatening my life, my wife, my freedom and whatever else. But I'm still here and I don't hold anything against any of those people. That's because I'm a big boy and I can get over it. I'm sure everyone else can do the same.

Overall though, the mods here are awesome and BigA runs the best board I've ever seen. And that's not ass kissing, that's honesty.....it just sounds like ass kissing, honestly.

This issue has been resolved. As far as the 250lb guy going to a mod, I never did that, I don't know what incident you are talking about. When I started a thread to "BigA, Phil" I was mearly trying to reply to a thread that BigA locked out the previous day.