Split training and IGF

bigbaldbulldog · Jul 13, 2005

We all know that taking IGF right after we train is the way to go but is there any benifit to training 2 times a day on a split routine and taking a shot 20-25mcg's right after each session or is one shot one session just as effective..

What sounds good on paper does not alllows work on the street in real life...

edge250 · Jul 13, 2005

the lr3 version has a 12 hour half life. doesnt matter. pre-workout injects allow for results in my experiments. i like an early am administration and either a pre or post workout adminstation. you will notice new levels of vascularity (veins surface that were never there before) you will also get site specific effects (mainly the bi's) and strength increase. i soley use ug products and am a believer, no more catabolism post cycle!

bigbaldbulldog · Jul 13, 2005

edge250 said:
the lr3 version has a 12 hour half life. doesnt matter. pre-workout injects allow for results in my experiments. i like an early am administration and either a pre or post workout adminstation. you will notice new levels of vascularity (veins surface that were never there before) you will also get site specific effects (mainly the bi's) and strength increase. i soley use ug products and am a believer, no more catabolism post cycle!

I have noticed that some Ir3 versions work better then others..they all seem to work just that seem to do better then others....

What have you found as far as mcgs worked best for you?....what was your protocal for AM and post mcg's.....I have seen that anywhere between 20-40mcgs is best but soem have gone as high as 50-70mcgs which i thinjk is unnessasary...50mcgs may even be too high if you have a legit brand and i feel 30-35 can work very nicely and you may even get more then 20-25 days out of your Ir3 run before receptor downgrades occur...at a lower dose you can get a good 5-6 weeks i feel ...yeilding a better result in the end instead of rushing results to happen...quality takes time...

What did you keep your carbs at daily? I know most well some guys say 300-400 grams a day is good with 200 of that coming post wrokout...for a 200 lb guy i feel

200-250 protein
125-175 carbs
50-75 fats is good

well it has worked well for me i am leaner,thicker and heavier then ever with this ratio... i went from 197lbs 13-14% to 220lbs 9-10% in about 7 months..

all this stuff can be tricky and is different for everyone and no two ppl will get the same result but it is nice to compare notes and see things...

MikeS · Jul 13, 2005

It may have a localized effect so why not do it IM in the muscle you are training BEFORE workout?

edge250 · Jul 13, 2005

i currently use 40mcg am 40mcg pm. for a total of 80mcg. i have gone as high as 120mcg and had terrible headaches in the back of my head for days, it was simply to much. i seem to gain well from 80mcg, my bodyweight varies from 245-260. diet wise i just eat as much as possible. i never noticed any hypoglycemic episodes with igf except when i ran it with insulin. i make sure i drink a big thing of gatorade during my workout and a have 150g of carbs from glycoload after my workout. and no matter what i'm using i always try to get 350g of quality protein per day, i use alot of isopure. i plan on using igf 30on 3off indefinelty on or off cycle. it is awesome, the best part is i can take longer breaks from aas without loosing my gains, longer time off equals a healthier me as my blood tests are proof of that. my dr. is into all this and is fascinated with igf

edge250 · Jul 13, 2005

MikeS said:
It may have a localized effect so why not do it IM in the muscle you are training BEFORE workout?

exactly! site injected 30-40min before a bi workout makes for stupid pumps and vascularity as well as strength gains.

lucian · Jul 16, 2005

question

do you have to use it 2 time a day or can someone whos 220 use it once, either pre or post workout? i have read articles that say it only lasts min in the body. is it a different kind than lr3? so whats a good hypothetical stack\? howbout glucophage in the stack, that stuf is awsome.like test ,tren,igf and gluco? maybr some dball to? bros lemme know what you think as ive never used igf before and inm gonna start soon hypotheticaly!!!also hypotheticaly i found a place to get the anti myostatin /interluken 15. that shit will break your bank!!!!! sheeezze!!!