Squats and Deads in the same week?

[powerrack]

For those of you who do both squats and deadlifts in your routines, how do you place them in your workout and do you do them weekly?

I do legs about every Friday and back about every Tuesday. I find that I rotate them heavy and light. So if I deadlift heavy that week, I will go light on squats that week and vice versa. I've attempted to do both heavy in the same week and end up not being able to put in a 100% effort and feel weaker on the movement.

 

[Shelby]

How you have it set up is wise. Heavy deads and heavy squats in the same week, over time, will only cause problems (CNS burnout, overtraining, potential for injury, etc.).

 

[powerrack]

This is why i take a week off every 8 weeks.

I'd completley get no results if I squatted and did deads every week heavy for 7-8 weeks, my progress would go backwards.

 

[Fa Seeshus]

if i do both heavy, the squats will be front squats, which saves my low back for the deads.

 

[ironfreak83]

How you have it set up is wise. Heavy deads and heavy squats in the same week, over time, will only cause problems (CNS burnout, overtraining, potential for injury, etc.).

bump!

 

[Turbomaster]

I used to do squats and deads Mondays after work . I was generally doing:
Squats : 135 x 8 reps
225 x 8
225 x 8
315 x 5
315 x 5
405 x 5

Deads : 135 x 8reps
225 x 8
315x5
315 x 5
405 x 3
405 x 3

shrugs : sets from 135 to 495

leg extensions and lying leg curls

I looked forward to this day more than any , I was thrashed when I got home , but the adrenaline rush was awesome , I can't wait until I can do it again ( I had a bicep tendon repair , so I have to lay off deads , shrugs and most back/ bicep work for a while. I usually always took the next day off afterwards need less to say .

 

[thedonker]

I used to do squats and deadlifts in the same week, and following shitloads of injuries (elbow) I no longer do the dead lifts, I do a more romanian style of dead lift off a raised bar, to hit the lower back and not mess my elbows up so much, but it is not part of my regular routine, which honestly I miss.

 

[hwood]

I listen to my body but normally I do deadlifts every other week as part of back routine usually at the end (if I do in beg. I find rest of workout less optimal). However if I am not feeling strong I don't do the deads or I do half deads.

I always do squats every week - always.

 

[Mr_Magoo]

depends on ur recovery ability, u can train ur body over time to handle the stress

 

[ironfreak83]

depends on ur recovery ability, u can train ur body over time to handle the stress

true, but i've found that as you start squatting and deadlifting heavier, you'll see better and quicker gains by not doing them both in the same week every week. i do them both in the same week every once in awhile, but for me the gains aren't as fast as if i alternate each one week by week.

lately i've been squatting or doing good mornings on mondays as a max effort session, then on fridays just speed pulls with about 50% of my 1RM with about 150 pounds of band tension. this is really kickin some ass for me at the moment.

 

[thebrick]

I found that if I busted ass on squats and also deadlifts, I needed at least 5 days between those workouts to recover fully. I like throwing the concept of a "week" out the window and prefer cycles of days vs. a set in concrete 7 day week as a basis for my workouts

 

[b-boy]

when doing a H.I.T. type workout... yes i squat and deadlift in the same week for about 6-8 weeks at a time, only thing that happens to me is i get brutally strong, in fact i squat, deadlift, and stiffleg all in the same weeks every week. but its all out one set for 4-8 reps.

 

[btech]

when doing a H.I.T. type workout... yes i squat and deadlift in the same week for about 6-8 weeks at a time, only thing that happens to me is i get brutally strong, in fact i squat, deadlift, and stiffleg all in the same weeks every week. but its all out one set for 4-8 reps.

So when you do one of these DL, SLDL and Squat cycles for 6-8 weeks you make good, consistant gains?

Hell yeah!

 

[Mr_Magoo]

true, but i've found that as you start squatting and deadlifting heavier, you'll see better and quicker gains by not doing them both in the same week every week. i do them both in the same week every once in awhile, but for me the gains aren't as fast as if i alternate each one week by week.

lately i've been squatting or doing good mornings on mondays as a max effort session, then on fridays just speed pulls with about 50% of my 1RM with about 150 pounds of band tension. this is really kickin some ass for me at the moment.

agree but keep in mind that u dont have to do reg. deads and squats every week, a lot of factors come into play, what kind of squat do u do; back, front, safety bar, zercher, ass to grass, parallel and what dead u do as there are many options; trap bar, regular, rack deads, sumo, snatch grip

u can pair different types of squats with different deads to avoid overlap and/or train one style for strength and the other for endurance. if i were to be doing powerlifting squats onto a box or without a box i would use the snatch grip dead, trap bar or regular dead as the sumo would be too similar to the powerlifting squat. had i done ass to grass olympic squats i would use rack deads or sumo deads that week

 

[Mr_Magoo]

I found that if I busted ass on squats and also deadlifts, I needed at least 5 days between those workouts to recover fully. I like throwing the concept of a "week" out the window and prefer cycles of days vs. a set in concrete 7 day week as a basis for my workouts

agree with the "week" concept should be thrown out the window if it fits ur schedule; to me it shows no real thought behind how u plan ur workouts. if a week was 8 days or 6 days the vast majority of people would still stick to an 8 or 6 day week workout split and wouldn't think about the possibility of having a 7 day training cycle

 

[btech]

agree with the "week" concept should be thrown out the window if it fits ur schedule; to me it shows no real thought behind how u plan ur workouts. if a week was 8 days or 6 days the vast majority of people would still stick to an 8 or 6 day week workout split and wouldn't think about the possibility of having a 7 day training cycle

A lot of things are based on a 7 day week - for example, my work schedule. Being that I have Mondays and Wednesdays off, and Friday I don't go in until later.....7 day week schedule works perfect.

Sucks that it is that way, though.

 

[blackhole]

agree with the "week" concept should be thrown out the window if it fits ur schedule; to me it shows no real thought behind how u plan ur workouts. if a week was 8 days or 6 days the vast majority of people would still stick to an 8 or 6 day week workout split and wouldn't think about the possibility of having a 7 day training cycle

agreed. our bodies are based on the 24 hour cycle
http://www.physorg.com/news114443228.html

a week is just an arbitrary amount of days. do whatever feels good. i do have a pattern of workouts, but sometimes i am 'supposed' to train a certain bodypart and i just aint feeling it that day - i will skip it. or it might be arm day or chest day and i have this urge to do heavy deadlifts, so i do it. listen to ur gut feelings

 

[CB]

I hate to sound like Valentino, but i just listen to my body. I've had some great gains since i implemented heavy deadlifts regularly into my back workout. Like everyone else has stated, i just spread them out from leg day.

 

[bigtwig]

I've recently started a new shift at work. We work 3 days on (24 hour on call) 5 days off. So I work out on a 3 way split on my days off, 3 workouts in an 8 day week. It's been working great for me, strongest and thickest I've ever been.

As for training heavy deads and heavy squats in the same week, I can only do that once in a while. I never deadlift light, so I normally deadlift every second week.

 

[b-boy]

So when you do one of these DL, SLDL and Squat cycles for 6-8 weeks you make good, consistant gains?

Hell yeah!

hell yea, when the weights or the reps stop going up each week, then its time for a break which my joints usually give in at about the 7 or 8 weeks mark.