Staying on cycle forever

[BALDNAZI]

Have you tried the nattokinase? It has my hematocrit down to 45 for over 3 years now.
Been a blessing. No more monthly visits to the hematologist.

Absolutely. Been on it for years since Dante first mentioned it. I use it for anti clotting but upping the dose may keep hemo down as you experience. What’s your dose?

 

[Massive G]

Absolutely. Been on it for years since Dante first mentioned it. I use it for anti clotting but upping the dose may keep hemo down as you experience. What’s your dose?

Taking 8000 fu 2 x a day.

 

[Massive G]

What are you using for a daily dosage?

8000 fu 2x a day.

 

[pins]

Cycles?

 

[gotti]

Taking 8000 fu 2 x a day.

What brand do you take ?

 

[NorwegianMuscle]

I'm guilty of this. I can't really remember when I've really came off off. I only take breaks when I get tired of pinning myself. I usually get lazy and run orals for a month or something. Every time I try to come off. I see the changes in my build. The fact my shirts aren't tight anymore. I lose energy in the gym and my strength decreases. I hate seeing my shoulders shrink and get what I call an "old mans build".

I did high dosages competing. I wanted to climb the ladder and finally win first place. So I played the game. I paid for it. Out of breath walking stairs. My blood work got crazy. My doctor had to rearrange my blood pressure and cholestrol meds. Running high dosages of HGH caused my shoe sizes to explode. It was my passion and I chose to live what I love.

I don't run high dosages into the high grams anymore and my HGH is low but I can not and will not come off. At lower dosages I am healthier and feel better. My blood work is awesome! It's test and eq from now on and 2-3 iu's of HGH at this point.

This is my life style, my passion, my love of the sport. I chose this despite the risks. Better than to lost and love than to not love at all.

 

[Massive G]

What brand do you take ?

Doctors best.

 

[Zamun]

I'm guilty of this. I can't really remember when I've really came off off. I only take breaks when I get tired of pinning myself. I usually get lazy and run orals for a month or something. Every time I try to come off. I see the changes in my build. The fact my shirts aren't tight anymore. I lose energy in the gym and my strength decreases. I hate seeing my shoulders shrink and get what I call an "old mans build".

I did high dosages competing. I wanted to climb the ladder and finally win first place. So I played the game. I paid for it. Out of breath walking stairs. My blood work got crazy. My doctor had to rearrange my blood pressure and cholestrol meds. Running high dosages of HGH caused my shoe sizes to explode. It was my passion and I chose to live what I love.

I don't run high dosages into the high grams anymore and my HGH is low but I can not and will not come off. At lower dosages I am healthier and feel better. My blood work is awesome! It's test and eq from now on and 2-3 iu's of HGH at this point.

This is my life style, my passion, my love of the sport. I chose this despite the risks. Better than to lost and love than to not love at all.

What amounts of test EQ?

 

[Fleezy]

Have you tried the nattokinase? It has my hematocrit down to 45 for over 3 years now.
Been a blessing. No more monthly visits to the hematologist.

Maybe I will try 3g of Eq then

 

[gotti]

Doctors best.

Thanks ! I use the same brand but only 4000 fu morning and 4000 fu at night ,i think i will try same dose as you .

 

[Zamun]

Doctors best.

Is it only good for Hematocrit? Or is it lowering RBC too?

 

[Massive G]

Is it only good for Hematocrit? Or is it lowering RBC too?

For the most part if hydration levels stay the same and Hematocrit drops it because of reducing RBC volume.
I say this because for many years when suffering from HH I would hyper hydrate before donation with sea salt glycerol and water. H would drop 2 to 3 points based on vascular volume.
Probably not the safest thing to do all the time but worked to allow me to donate to the vein butchers.

 

[Zamun]

For the most part if hydration levels stay the same and Hematocrit drops it because of reducing RBC volume for the most part.
I say this because for many years when suffering from HH I would hyper hydrate before donation with sea salt glycerol and water. H would drop 2 to 3 points based on vascular volume. Probably not the safest thing to do all the time but worked to allow me to donate to the vein butchers.

You’re doing 16000 a day total? Or 8 split twice a day?

 

[Massive G]

You’re doing 16000 a day total? Or 8 split twice a day?

8 split 2 x.

 

[Jefe]

8 split 2 x.

Check your DMs please thank you!

 

[j2048b]

If there was a peptide that kept hematocrit down to normal levels, then a no brainer for me. Everything else can be kept in healthy ranges with peptides it seems and certain supplements. Reta for one has been great for me. Solve the blood count problem and I’d never go down to low TRT doses again.

Yes, I do understand we can keep our blood thinner and anti clotting with Fish Oil, Natto etc. But a simple shot where you don’t even think about it would be nice.

There actually is… and ima find out how to get it….



New hepcidin mimmic that helps keep hemcidin up and thus lowers the hematocrit …

Rusfertide, a Hepcidin Mimetic, for Control of Erythrocytosis in Polycythemia Vera​

 

[KyleSmith1985]

There actually is… and ima find out how to get it….



New hepcidin mimmic that helps keep hemcidin up and thus lowers the hematocrit …

Rusfertide, a Hepcidin Mimetic, for Control of Erythrocytosis in Polycythemia Vera​

This isn’t available commercially or for doctors to prescribe yet and still undergoing FDA trials. Good luck finding it before then.

 

[Son_of_Seamus]

This isn’t available commercially or for doctors to prescribe yet and still undergoing FDA trials. Good luck finding it before then.

I'm a relatively new consumer of peptides and know nothing of the producer side. Reta is also in trials yet is widely available. Why wouldn't the ugl's add Rusferatide to their lists? Seems like it would be more sought after than many of the peptides I see listed for sale. Maybe there are greater safety concerns than for a novel GLP-1 like Reta. Anyone have any insight into this process?

 

[KyleSmith1985]

I'm a relatively new consumer of peptides and know nothing of the producer side. Reta is also in trials yet is widely available. Why wouldn't the ugl's add Rusferatide to their lists? Seems like it would be more sought after than many of the peptides I see listed for sale. Maybe there are greater safety concerns than for a novel GLP-1 like Reta. Anyone have any insight into this process?

I’m assuming we haven’t seen it in on the black or grey market is there’s not a huge demand for it.

People with testosterone-induced erythrocytosis is probably 0.001% of peptide users. The main consumers of GLPs are fat people that hate the gym which is 75% of the population.

No idea if it’s legit or not but medchemexpress has it for sale.

 

[Flocci]

I'm guilty of this. I can't really remember when I've really came off off. I only take breaks when I get tired of pinning myself. I usually get lazy and run orals for a month or something. Every time I try to come off. I see the changes in my build. The fact my shirts aren't tight anymore. I lose energy in the gym and my strength decreases. I hate seeing my shoulders shrink and get what I call an "old mans build".

I did high dosages competing. I wanted to climb the ladder and finally win first place. So I played the game. I paid for it. Out of breath walking stairs. My blood work got crazy. My doctor had to rearrange my blood pressure and cholestrol meds. Running high dosages of HGH caused my shoe sizes to explode. It was my passion and I chose to live what I love.

I don't run high dosages into the high grams anymore and my HGH is low but I can not and will not come off. At lower dosages I am healthier and feel better. My blood work is awesome! It's test and eq from now on and 2-3 iu's of HGH at this point.

This is my life style, my passion, my love of the sport. I chose this despite the risks. Better than to lost and love than to not love at all.

Did you notice that you progressed better after those periods of lower doses or were the period on lower doses not long enough for the serum levels to decline enough and potentially have an effect?

im thinking of the theory that guys say that you seem to progress better with periods on lower doses between periods of higher doses, not anything to do with androgen receptors necessarily but more stress, oxidative stress, inflammation and perhaps other regulatory things like myostatin, cortisol and so on. What do you guys think of this, seeing better progress with periods of TRT/HRT or lower cruise/bridge doses like 40-70% of your blast dose, just as an example.