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stimulating test levels/libido whilst still on test?

I have had similiar experiences with libido issues. And although I don't use deca/tren etc, and pretty much regardless of test dose/AI usage etc,
- I have found that taking a single dose of o.5mg Cabergoline increases my libido dramatically within 12-24 hours.
 
There are so many factors and combinations of reasons possible..

You know how they say if you force yourself to smile all day you get into a better mood just because your are smiling?

You have full nuts, so maybe think about trying some Melanotan II, PT -141, or cialis or viagra. Maybe the hard on will be like the forced smile.
 
And I am interesting.........I never had to use an anti-E..ever.....but I never rused tren or deca........just gh, test, winstrol.....slin my last 2 years of competing.....never a dieuretic...ever.......no HCG, no clomid.........

Interesting. I have used nolva a few times. I have experienced the first stages of gyno twice and 20mg nolva sorted that out within 2/3 weeks. Like anything there are conflicting opinions/methods. I find it interesting you never used HCG. Did you come completely off on numerous occasions but use TRT now (doctor prescribed of course)? I ask as I want children in the near future so think occasional HCG usage would be wise. I know you have a beautiful daughter (do you have 2 kids) so thats why I am curious about your lack of HCG. I am gonna hire you in the future (probably about 6 months) so I can pick your brain then :)
 
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Interesting. I have used nolva a few times. I have experienced the first stages of gyno twice and 20mg nolva sorted that out within 2/3 weeks. Like anything there are conflicting opinions/methods. I find it interesting you never used HCG. Did you come completely off on numerous occasions but use TRT now (doctor prescribed of course)? I ask as I want children in the near future so think occasional HCG usage would be wise. I know you have a beautiful daughter (do you have 2 kids) so thats why I am curious about your lack of HCG. I am gonna hire you in the future (probably about 6 months) so I can pick your brain then :)

Its great if you want to havs kids.........HCG AND clomid.......my daughters are 20 ( as of yesterday), 15, 2
 
its worth noting i got my girlfriend pregnant last year when all these problems started ,dont know if thats an indicator to anything ,im presuming i wasnt totally shut down ?

what is the story with desensitization form hcg ?could this have happened to me when i have used it continously ?
i only use it once per month now at a bigger dose ,5000ius spread over 1 week ,
before i used it 500ius e3d every week
 
I'd add some DHEA and pregnenolone.

HCG may help, but if your testes are unresponsive, you will need a large initial dose, such as 500ius for 14 days, then 250ius 2x week.

Get thyroid function checked though.

Also, SHBG, PRL, Free T and Estrogen.


I used to think DHEA was worthless, and for strength and size it probably is. I will say DHEA without a doubt increases sex drive in me and my wife. Even 50 mgs day makes a big difference. As far as pregnenolone, what do you recommend? I bought some for my wife and she never took it. I assumed it was more benefit to females, but interested to learn more. What are your experiences with the preg.?
 
its worth noting i got my girlfriend pregnant last year when all these problems started ,dont know if thats an indicator to anything ,im presuming i wasnt totally shut down ?

what is the story with desensitization form hcg ?could this have happened to me when i have used it continously ?
i only use it once per month now at a bigger dose ,5000ius spread over 1 week ,
before i used it 500ius e3d every week

I don't think 500ius every 3 day would hurt ya. More likely from being on so long and shut down so long, or so often, IF desensitization has occurred with ya.

Desensitization occurs from too HcG, too much test (as we know) AND can occur from too much Estrogen/Aromatase. There's a theory that Aromatase is toxic to Leydig cells, but haven't looked hard enough to find the research yet. Emeric would probably know this, if anyone.

If you look at some of the fertility protocols used by fertility docs, you see what we'd call big doses of HcG, like 5,000mcg at once a couple times a week. Is this just to get these guys fertile, one last time, without regard for the later consequences? I dunno. But it's a lot and they do it.

Like here: Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (hCG): A treatment of oligospermia 5000mcg once a week (at once) for 4 months...

1000mcg at a time is supposed to be the limit, often tossed around, for desensitization, but Ive yet to see anything that says this WILL cause desensitization for sure, I'm sure with extended use it can't be good.

IME, over 500mcg a couple times a week and I get itchy nips, so aromatase if obviously rocketing. I use Aromasin with it to make sure estrogen is in check and not undoing the benefit of the HcG and flooding my Leydig cells with toxic Estro and Aromatase. And I hate AI's...
 

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