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Sublingual NPP, whats the verdict?

Just got some, anybody ever try it?

man ive been wanting to get some. no one ever really comments on sublingual. i just started taking sublingual creatine and its working better than anything right now! so im sure its probably gonna kick ass. keep us posted. is it chinese?
 
man ive been wanting to get some. no one ever really comments on sublingual. i just started taking sublingual creatine and its working better than anything right now! so im sure its probably gonna kick ass. keep us posted. is it chinese?

Not really sure what brand. I'm going to be taking 400mg/wk, I'll get back with the feedback in a week or so.
 
From what I hear you need like 3x the dose requirements by manafucaturer. They dont get absorrbed that well because they are not methlated to pass through your liver. So the thought is that is passes into blood stream via viens under toungue etc. id rather go with pills or inj. Inj 1st pills 2nd....sublinguals ummmm
 
everyone has been waiting for feedback for years on the test props, npps, and bold props sublinguals

pls bump and any info appreciated
 
posted this awhile back. Still using them with good results.

Background: I am a 42 yo former competitive bodybuilder that had some unrelated health issues in the past. Due to my health issues, I am no longer able to risk self injections of any anabolics(synthetic Heart valve). I had been using test creams for HRT and maintaining a 215lbs physique at 5'9" with low BF. Unfortunately The test creams were contaminating my 2 Year old (warning to anyone using test creams with children) so I had to stop them. Wanting to continue to supplement my declining natural test levels, after much research into sublingual delivery systems, I ordered IP's test prop sublinguals.

It has been 16 weeks on just the sublinguals 5 20mg tabs devided throughout the day and 0.5 arimidex daily. I am currently 225 with a decrease in bodyfat and added fullness. Good sex drive. Some one even asked me if I was planning on competing again. Lab work:

Total testosterone 2011 ng/ml normal is 240-827
Free testosterone 74% free androgen index
Liver: ALT 40 normal 7-55
AST 30 normal 10-40
Bottom line: Sublingual test delivery works. Only inconvienience is multiple daily dosing.
 
posted this awhile back. Still using them with good results.

Background: I am a 42 yo former competitive bodybuilder that had some unrelated health issues in the past. Due to my health issues, I am no longer able to risk self injections of any anabolics(synthetic Heart valve). I had been using test creams for HRT and maintaining a 215lbs physique at 5'9" with low BF. Unfortunately The test creams were contaminating my 2 Year old (warning to anyone using test creams with children) so I had to stop them. Wanting to continue to supplement my declining natural test levels, after much research into sublingual delivery systems, I ordered IP's test prop sublinguals.

It has been 16 weeks on just the sublinguals 5 20mg tabs devided throughout the day and 0.5 arimidex daily. I am currently 225 with a decrease in bodyfat and added fullness. Good sex drive. Some one even asked me if I was planning on competing again. Lab work:

Total testosterone 2011 ng/ml normal is 240-827
Free testosterone 74% free androgen index
Liver: ALT 40 normal 7-55
AST 30 normal 10-40
Bottom line: Sublingual test delivery works. Only inconvienience is multiple daily dosing.

GREAT POST THIS IS WHAT I WAS SHOOTIN 4

THXZ
 
Wow 16 weeks...holly crap that must put a hole in your pocket. So it sounds to costy and prob takes forever to kick in. Not knocking them but I tried the "paper juice" b4 and its absorbition rate was lowwwwww. So you had to super high dose it for it to become affective and also take for long term....Sounds kinda like the sublinguals. Id rather just split for anavar and tbol stack or some shit....Reminds me of the andro days....Lol
 
Actually the absorption rate for a sublingual that is complexed with hydro propyl beta cyclodextrine is up to 80%. Do a search on pub med on sublingual test delivery. The sublinguals I use are made like this and were actually much cheaper than the test cream I had been using from a compounding pharmacy.
 
People seem to speak reasonablly about it but i think that when it comes down to it it is no where near effective or cost effictive or even efficent (every couple hour delivery needed) than injectiables or pills for that matter.....i tryed them b4 i had "papervar" and "papertbol"-paper juice....They work by under the tongue but absorbtion was minimal. I cant find one study showing sublingual absorbition rate.......It seems to be a grey area.....But why bother when pills are available and they are much more effective...Or if you can pop a shot once a week.....Much easier than holding shit on you all day long to just ask to get arrested.....Once a week i take 1 min to inject and im good to go for 7 days.....
 
I bother because I can not risk injection due to my synthetic heart valve and orals are too liver toxic. However, If you can inject, and know what you are injecting is sterile, then that is the best route. Just be warned that I know 2 friends that have gotten systemic infections from underground gear. One of them ended up with a heart valve replacement.
 
I dont think orals atre too liver toxic....they jsut raise liver values over short periods of time....only use for 4-5 weeks max...use a liver protectant like syntheringe and ull be fine...use light orals like anavar and tbol.....or primo if u can afford it....primo isnt methylated etc......
 
Update; so far, so good. I take 4, 20 mg tablets/day. They dont like dissolve too good though, it really takes about 10-15 minutes under your tongue to fully dissolve. Today was only day 5 on them, but I felt my strength up significantly today, and I've noticed some increased water retention. I think I may get on a mild OTC water shed pill such as dandelion root or something to try to keep the fluid off. I'm stacking the NPP tabs w/ 800mg/wk of Test 400, just finished through some MGF and Humalog, gains have been good so far the past 5 weeks since starting the cycle. Currently 231 lbs, hoping to be a harder 235-240 when it's over with in 5 more weeks
 

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