i have to agree with penis pumper..uhmm, i mean phil. i do not think trhat super slow is good for mass. the reason being...where is the overload??...where is the tension?? in the july edition of muscular development they sited a article that was run in the associated press about super slow it states "muscle hypertrophy depends on peak muscle tension and the time that tension is applied. constant muscle tension-such as that is used in ultra slow training methods- decrease muscle blood flow , which causes a decrease in absolute muscle tension". i also have to say that , we as bodybuilders, are the only ones that believe in ultra long recup cycles..i see dave palumbo saying that he goes 10 days between bodyparts in his cycles. you mean to tell me that he hits his chest with 8 sets and needs 10 days to recover his chest?? recup is very valuable..within reason.. but, surely we can hit every bodypart twice a week..if not, we need to cut the volume of our workouts. that being said, maybe the reason some get away with the long time between stress of muscle groups is the fact that anabolics may not allow a quick deconditioning of muscle groups...either way, the more you can hit a muscle group the more growth you will have..that cant be argued..