Supplements taken to insure health while on and WHY

[TooPowerful4u]

Iv been very curious latly if there were more ways to insure your health during a cycle since the stuff obviously takes its toll, im sure there is lots that i dont know about. Honestly all iv done is get regular blood tests (which have all turned out pretty good knock on wood). Now i know there are things like milk thistle, and i remember Phil Hernon posting a ton of things he takes for his health. Now im wondering WHAT and WHY and HOW do you guys take DURING a cycle to stay healthy.

 

[Big A]

This is what I take without failure:

proscar
femara
Synthergine (milk thistle has very dubious 'studies' behind it. No real medical proof that it works)
HCG ever 4 weeks
Omega 3's
Aspirin
Anti-oxidants and multi
Vit C
Zinc
B-5
ProBiotics
Green Tea

 

[LATS]

omega 3's, aspirin, multi vit and min, extra c and little e, niacin, sometime a anti e, .. my dosages are very small, so i sometime do not take a anti e .. i usually do not have estrogen sides..

 

[cryptasm]

liv52, and Milk thistle but not the regular stuff the sylbin phytosome type.. u can get both cheap at www.liversupport.com, also synthergine, but I drink it stings a bit if you do IM or sq..but the ingredients are solid and it works..ur liver is the most important organ in ur body don't cut corners on it also NAC is good it raises intercellular glutathion levels..glutathion is the most important antioxident in ur body and most people are deficiant and don't know it..its ur bodys first and formost defense aganst toxins and can rapidly be depleated. Don't ask a DR. about glutathione becase they don't know WTF it is..but trust me if yur glutathione levels are high your body canfight off anything or any toxin...those 3 should be staples... period

 

[cryptasm]

btw ther are many studies on liv52 and milk thistle anybody interested follow that link inmy previous post its al there

 

[AWN2004]

Dont forget the CoQ-10

 

[Vander_V]

cant leave out Breast milk.

 

[Snarf]

I'll start of by saying I am probably a little biased against or skeptical of most supplements and I work for a major pharmaceutical company. There are plenty of good supplements out there but just remember that "antioxidant" does not mean cure all.

In fact, the liver toxicity associated with alkylated oral steroids is not an oxidative process. While the "liver supplements" (whatever that means) could potentially support or enhance your liver's capacity to detoxify chemical agents, it will not stop or prevent 17 alkylated drug indiced hepatotoxicity. You can tell yourself all day long that you are protecting your liver by paying someone $50 for a bottle of milk thistle, but nothing can replace the protection you will have from three simple things:

1) Use sane doses, in fact avoid orals if at all possible
2) Know your hepatic associated side effects
3) Get an LFT done before and during your cycle.

Sorry if it sounds like I am lecturing, but it drives me crazy to hear people saying they take milk thistle to "protect" their liver and then skip what is actually important.

 

[TooPowerful4u]

Ok sounds good, but i was kinda lookin for the reasoning behind each of these things also. I dont really like to take sumthin becuase "someone told me to". I wanna know why im doin it, what it does.

This is what I take without failure:

proscar
femara
Synthergine (milk thistle has very dubious 'studies' behind it. No real medical proof that it works)
HCG ever 4 weeks
Omega 3's
Aspirin
Anti-oxidants and multi
Vit C
Zinc
B-5
ProBiotics
Green Tea

 

[Big A]

Ok sounds good, but i was kinda lookin for the reasoning behind each of these things also. I dont really like to take sumthin becuase "someone told me to". I wanna know why im doin it, what it does.

proscar - anti dht - keeps prostate healthy, keeps you from going bald and getting gorilla like body hair
femara - anti-e - avoids female fat distribution, estrogen induced water retention, mood swings and bitchies
Synthergine - detoxyfies the liver
HCG ever 4 weeks - keeps the testes at a decent size and helps the HPTA to not forget how to function
Omega 3's - cholesterol, heart health
Aspirin - thins blood, heart health
Anti-oxidants and multi - makes sure you have all the vits/mins and all the anti oxidant benefits
Vit C - lowers cholesterol at high dose, improves immune system
Zinc - improves immune system
B-5 - cholesterol
ProBiotics - prevents candida, keeps gut health healthy
Green Tea - usual benefits
metformin - (forgot this one) - keeps the insulin receptors sensisitive, prevents type II diabetis
l-glutamine (forgot this one too) - improves immune system, keeps gut healthy

 

[Big A]

And to anyone that is anaemic (gets bruised easily) I STRONGLY suggest injectible B-12.

 

[2BIGFRED]

proscar - anti dht - keeps prostate healthy, keeps you from going bald and getting gorilla like body hair
femara - anti-e - avoids female fat distribution, estrogen induced water retention, mood swings and bitchies
Synthergine - detoxyfies the liver
HCG ever 4 weeks - keeps the testes at a decent size and helps the HPTA to not forget how to function
Omega 3's - cholesterol, heart health
Aspirin - thins blood, heart health
Anti-oxidants and multi - makes sure you have all the vits/mins and all the anti oxidant benefits
Vit C - lowers cholesterol at high dose, improves immune system
Zinc - improves immune system
B-5 - cholesterol
ProBiotics - prevents candida, keeps gut health healthy
Green Tea - usual benefits
metformin - (forgot this one) - keeps the insulin receptors sensisitive, prevents type II diabetis
l-glutamine (forgot this one too) - improves immune system, keeps gut healthy

Im right on with everything you said bro but what about the asprin what would be a good daily dose of it?Also how is it benifecial when your on cycle?Im just wondering becuase hey if you take it then it must work and Im going to start using it.

 

[Big A]

Aspirin - 150mg/day

 

[Curiousity]

Policosanol to control your cholesterol.


STUDY

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...d&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12126462&query_hl=7

Policosanol: a new treatment for cardiovascular disease?

Janikula M.

Policosanol is a mixture of alcohols isolated and purified from sugar cane. Recently, Cuban researchers found 5-20 mg daily of policosanol to be effective at improving serum lipid profiles. Policosanol is believed to decrease total cholesterol (TC), low-density lipoprotein (LDL), and increase high-density lipoprotein (HDL) by inhibiting cholesterol synthesis and increasing LDL processing. Lipid profile improvements are seen in healthy volunteers, patients with type II hypercholesterolemia, type 2 diabetics with hypercholesterolemia, postmenopausal women with hypercholesterolemia, and patients with combined hypercholesterolemia and abnormal liver function tests. Additionally, policosanol has performed equal to or better than simvastatin, pravastatin, lovastatin, probucol, or acipimox with fewer side effects in patients with type II hypercholesterolemia. Policosanol also decreases several other risk factors of cardiovascular disease by decreasing LDL oxidation, platelet aggregation, endothelial damage, and smooth muscle cell proliferation. Furthermore, policosanol decreases progression and increases regression of cardiovascular disease assessed by thallium-labeled myocardial perfusion scintigraphy (TL-MPS) and Doppler-ultrasound, and decreases symptoms of cardiovascular disease assessed by the Specific Activity Scale. In post-marketing studies, only 0.31 percent of patients have had adverse events. Furthermore, in animal toxicity studies doses up to 1500 times normal human doses (on the basis of body weight) have shown no negative effects on carcinogenesis, reproduction, growth, and development. However, despite the positive research on policosanol on Cubans, policosanol produced in Cuba is not available in the United States, and only Cuban subjects have been studied. Further research is needed to determine if the same effects will be obtained in U.S. populations with non-Cuban produced policosanol.

ANOTHER

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...d&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14677572&query_hl=2

Role of policosanols in the prevention and treatment of cardiovascular disease.

ANOTHER

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...d&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15161326&query_hl=7

Medical lipid-regulating therapy: current evidence, ongoing trials and future developments.