Sustanon250 + Insulin Cycle

Gepetto · Sep 1, 2012

Hey there.
I'm looking to run a bulking cycle with Sustanon250 (Omnadren) and some Insulin. It should look something like that:

1-12w: Sustanon250 500mg every Monday
1-12w: Arimidex 0.25mg e3d
PCT:
Aromasin - 1-4w: 25 mg/eod 4-8w: 12.5 mg/eod
Triptorelin (GnRH) Single 100mcg shot no Day 1 after the last Sust250 pin

3 IUs Insulin Humalog, PWO (w/ 50g Protein, 10g Glutamine, 10g Creatine, 21g Dextrose) for 10 weeks

Please evaluate, your opinion and experience will be greatly appreciated.

P.S.
I'm thinking of adding some TB500 as well. What do you think ? Thanks.

Gepetto · Sep 2, 2012

Come on guys, no one ?

tri-terror · Sep 2, 2012

Is this your first cycle?

Gepetto · Sep 2, 2012

Third one. I've been on peptides mostly until now. I've been runing ModGRF1-29 and GHRP-2 for about 2 years with breaks every now and then.

KUVinny · Sep 2, 2012

Sust needs to be pinned more frequently to obtain stable blood concentration levels due to the short esters, like M/W/F for example.

Gepetto · Sep 2, 2012

So 250mg eod ? or 125 mg ? I don't want very high Test blood levels, I haven't used Test in a while.

KUVinny · Sep 2, 2012

You could try .75cc M/W/F.

Also you would be wise to add clomid to your PCT - 100/100/50/50

Gepetto · Sep 2, 2012

I'm thinking Clomid + Triptorelin = Overkill ?
After all very high LH and FSH levels can have the opposite effect.

As for TB500 I think I'll try Times Roman's protocol:

Wk1 - 5mg
Wk2 - 2.5mg
Wk3 - 2.5mg
Wk4 - 2mg
Wk5 - 2mg

Any ideas whether TB500 is compatible with insulin or not ?

GtMuscle · Sep 2, 2012

I think it's a good idea trip + clomid.. respectively 100 mcg and 100 mg for the first week, then 50 mg for another two weeks

thebigguy84 · Sep 2, 2012

1 Sustanon 250mg every 3rd day will keep your levels just fine if you are only doing 500 mg a week.You can do your slin preworkout hear you get alot better results and major pumps.

Gepetto · Sep 2, 2012

Good input thanks.

I've heard that IGF-1 can prevent insulin on acting on fat cells. Any ideas how should I stack IGF-1 with insulin for this effect to be apparent ?

I've heard that best time to use IGF-1 is 2-3 hours post workout.

GtMuscle · Sep 2, 2012

If you use slin pre workout, you could take igf-1 lr3 post wo, if you use slin post wo, do this:

Immediatly post wo, slin IM
20 min later 50/100mcg lr3 IM for insulin sensitizing..

That should work

Gepetto · Sep 2, 2012

JimmyBoe said:
If you use slin pre workout, you could take igf-1 lr3 post wo, if you use slin post wo, do this:

Immediatly post wo, slin IM
20 min later 50/100mcg lr3 IM for insulin sensitizing..

That should work

However post-workout IGF-1 will halt any proliferation caused by endogenous MGF and I don't really want to dismiss proliferation during a bulking period.

GtMuscle · Sep 2, 2012

That's why I use peg mgf.. you could run it..

Gepetto · Sep 2, 2012

JimmyBoe said:
That's why I use peg mgf.. you could run it..

Is there any evidence to support that MGF would inhibit Insulin activity on fat cells ?

sammy555 · Sep 2, 2012

KUVinny said:
Sust needs to be pinned more frequently to obtain stable blood concentration levels due to the short esters, like M/W/F for example.

I prefer one big shot every 12 days or do like it was designed to be used. Results just as good much less sides. It had short medium and a very long ester.

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Gepetto · Sep 2, 2012

sammy555 said:
I prefer one big shot every 12 days or do like it was designed to be used. Results just as good much less sides. It had short medium and a very long ester.

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Broscience suggests that regular dosing for HRT is not suitable for bodybuilding as the propionate ester is not utilized efficiently and that testosterone levels won't reach stable levels without more frequent injections (this one doesn't really make any sense as Sustanon is designed to do exactly that with just a single shot). I'm just saying what other bb-ers have told me.