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Swollen painful hands bloat

Deca probably not the problem? You guys think 4 of hgh is high enough to wake up with fat swolen hands ?
Yes! One of the primary sides of HGH.

On another note, your estrogen has got to be 0. Moving forward do not use AI’s or SERM’s unless your blood work suggests you need one. No need to take both either here.

Cage
 
Play stupid games, get stupid prizes. You’re asking for advice on a very poor cycle design and said bloodwork came back normal but haven’t posted anything…
Whats wrong with the cycle?
 
Whats wrong with the cycle?
Dude just pull the HGH and see if that fixes it. If that doesn’t work get a full blood panel and also look at your diet. Could just be that you’re pounding a fuck ton of sodium, eating a ton of shit, or eating something that causes an inflammatory reaction for you and it’s causing a ton of water retention.
 
Everything. And the fact that you thought a few hundreds mgs of Deca was causing your wrist pain means you’re not ready for this. It’s the GH. Which proves you did absolutely no research before sticking yourself. Scary times…
Ive been researching more than 10 years. I almost never pin more than 750 mg a week 250 is mucho for my joints and gains. 2.5 of letro every 3rd day is fine for e2 had this tested multiple times
 
Ive been researching more than 10 years. I almost never pin more than 750 mg a week 250 is mucho for my joints and gains. 2.5 of letro every 3rd day is fine for e2 had this tested multiple times
Let me see the bloodwork showing your E2 on 2.5mgs of Letro. If it isn’t 0 you’re either lying and showing someone else’s lab work or your Letro is bunk. The only times you should ever even consider taking that much Letro is if you’re in the final week of prep or you legit have cancer. The only other idiots I see taking that much Letro are the ones who have convinced themselves they can cure their gyno and you can guess how that story ends.

By the way - I want to see these “mucho gains”. Please post a pic.
 
Everything. And the fact that you thought a few hundreds mgs of Deca was causing your wrist pain means you’re not ready for this. It’s the GH. Which proves you did absolutely no research before sticking yourself. Scary times…
Before I even read the OPs original post I literally thought “this is definitely gonna involve GH” but damn, was not expecting all the estrogen suppression… I can only imagine how I’d feel taking all that lol
 
Before I even read the OPs original post I literally thought “this is definitely gonna involve GH” but damn, was not expecting all the estrogen suppression… I can only imagine how I’d feel taking all that lol
Not just how much he’s taking to suppress it but the dude is only on a TRT dose of Test to begin with lol. I would legit be suicidal.
 
I wish we could get all the puffy faces together for a group photo
It’s weird how all the puffy faces tell us every symptom under the sun but always get quiet when asked for a photo and then complain about the board. I wonder why that is… 🤷‍♂️
 
Could be the gh. I doubt mk677 gets to even 4iu of gh although I've seen claims it can. Even 25 mgs makes my hands noticeably bloated and tight and fall asleep often when trying to sleep. Maybe lower the gh to 2 iu and see if it helps. It's odd to run an ai with such low test but I'm not going to. Comment on that because it's not what you asked.
 
Ive been researching more than 10 years. I almost never pin more than 750 mg a week 250 is mucho for my joints and gains. 2.5 of letro every 3rd day is fine for e2 had this tested multiple times
You've learned a very valuable lesson - all the research in the world means nothing compared to real-world experience.
 
Im very sensative to estrogen. I tend to have high e2
Your bodyfat is probably really high. These hormones all work a lot better and give fewer side effects when you are lean. Time to get 15k steps day and 30 minutes cardio 5x/wk with a sensible diet of high protein, moderate carbs, low fats, buddy.
 

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