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T-Nation's Tapering protocol

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Anyone use this method before? what was your experience?

This is the protocol:

Following the cycle use a 4-6 week waiting period also refered to as 'stasis period' by somebody.

4 weeks if you are using esters such as propinate.

esters such as cypionate and enanthate are in the middle - 4-6 week waiting period - your decision as it is a tough call. I prefer more weeks then less.

6 week waiting period for esters such as decanoate -i.e. deca.

During the waiting period you should taper off any aromatase inhibitors you are using - basically get rid of all drugs in your system besides testosterone.

Once the waiting period is over, then gradually reduce the dose weekly for 6 weeks untill you are off.

I preffer injecting enanthate twice per week as my ester of choice. But you can use propinate or sustenon as well, just devide it into 3 doses per week.

Once the taper starts, that is around the time you would start using a serm if you are going to use one.

You can taper without a serm and still be successfull doing so.

the research showed no hpta suppression while using a serm and low dose testosterone - 100mg per week

It also showed no hpta suppression with no serm use while using 25mg of testosterone enanthate per week.

So as i said it is possible to taper with our without a serm successfully.

If you are using HCG during the cycle to maintain testicular size and function - you must stop HCG at the end of your cycle and by hcg free throughout the waiting period.


So to put it all together using testosterone enanthatate dose split into biweekly injections:

Cycle ends, stop hcg if using,

start Waiting peroid:

Week 1-6 or 1-4: Test E 100mg per week
Taper off Arimidex or femara fully by week 3

Taper phase:

week 1-6

mg/ week: 80mg / 60mg/ 50mg/ 40mg/ 30 mg/ 20mg.

Start your Serm (nolva or clomid) at the begining of the taper if you choose to do so.


If you decide to use Masteron,

Then you use 50mg Test E, and 50mg Masteron E per week or masteron prop, with test prop for the waiting period, and keep the ratio the same as you taper down as well (1:1, with the starting totol mg amount 100mg).

No Serm use is needed and i have found libido to be even better when using this mix.

the masteron acts as an anti E, and the DHT enhances libido. The masteron itself at that amount does not subtract from hpta function more than it adds libido enhance ment, and estrogen control.

The masteron is the only drug that i have found to fit the bill perfectly for this purpose, but you can try aromasis as well, but I don't think it would have the same positive effects on libido.

As for using other drugs during your pct that may enhance workouts and maintain size...

there are a wide variety of supplements out there that have no negative effect on the hpta.

As for other drugs, some options would be:

IGF, MGF, HGH....

Clenbutoral,

and Insulin which I highly do not recommend.
 
It looks interesting to say the least. I was reading another post about switching to short esters at the end of your cycle so you could have a hard break at the end. That's kind of the opposite of this concept. If I was gonna do this taper method< I would use a longer ester during the waiting period and use prop during the taper. It seems like it would make more sense with a sort ester. I'd like to hear some vets expound on this.
 
over 100 views and only 1 post?!

I'm bumping this cause I'd like to hear some more opinions
 
i would like some mpre opions about that this becasue sounds interesting but not sure
 
Actually theres a thread i was reading earlier today that was talking about how ppl use to tapper off back in the day before PCT became popular ... but none of the members explained what tapering protocol they used ...
 
Bump this
 
looks like one mans tapper protocol.......thats it

this is probley what HE found that works for him

i think it looks awesome, and def worth a try for you guys

its does though look like he complicated it QUITE a bit

its not that complicated guys

one thing i do completely agree on is MASTERON use
for a tapper......there is nothing better imo

ive also done a JUST MASTERON tapper.......awesome results guys
no serms what so ever or hcg

:)

good find bro
 
looks like one mans tapper protocol.......thats it

this is probley what HE found that works for him

i think it looks awesome, and def worth a try for you guys

its does though look like he complicated it QUITE a bit

its not that complicated guys

one thing i do completely agree on is MASTERON use
for a tapper......there is nothing better imo

ive also done a JUST MASTERON tapper.......awesome results guys
no serms what so ever or hcg

:)

good find bro

very interesting on the masteron taper idea
 
For me, I don't like this design. I don't mind the tapering, but would actually keep HCG in the mix, along with low dose AI and clomid. Tapering would really depend on how much the person was using. Going from 500mg/wk to none isn't entirely that drastic, but going from higher doses, say 1gram and higher, I think tapering becomes more efficient at preventing certain sides. I like to end all cycles with test going through my system, and nothing else. But the important thing is to find a protocol you like.

Is he keeping the 100mg/wk in there as a bridge for HRT-like effects? I'm kind of confused on this part, or maybe not understanding where he is coming from? Is he using it as a dosage before coming totally off AAS conmpletely, or is he staying on 'some' test?

BMJ
 
he using it as a dosage before coming totally off AAS conmpletely

Yes, that was Prisoners goal: To slowly taper down to being 100% off. He's a pretty good national level competitor now.
 
I'VE NEVER USED pct AND ALWAYS JUST TAPER
 
I'm definitely gonna taper next time
 
looks like one mans tapper protocol.......thats it

this is probley what HE found that works for him

i think it looks awesome, and def worth a try for you guys

its does though look like he complicated it QUITE a bit

its not that complicated guys

one thing i do completely agree on is MASTERON use
for a tapper......there is nothing better imo

ive also done a JUST MASTERON tapper.......awesome results guys
no serms what so ever or hcg

:)

good find bro

Mast E or Prop?
 
prop

the reason i like the shorter esters
is because is more predictable
as far as being OUT of your system

with the longer esters it varys too much

basically i want to know when i'm off
 
it may or may not work for you, everyone is different. I will tell you this, i know the guy that wrote it originally and even he admits that now after many years of use it just doesn;t work and he no longer comes off at all.
 
the last cycle i did was the first time that i tapped down.
gonna do that again on my next cycle
 

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