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Terrible constant pumped feeling with Mast Tren Test. Can y'all explain

I've never heard of Cialis being used for BP control. Anyone care to elaborate?

That is what cialis and viagra were originally used for, to dilate blood vessels and help control BP. It was only after using it in studies that they found it be so effective at erectile dysfunction.

The truth is though, there are a couple different ways that someone can develop blood pressure issues. There is fluid balance, blood vessel constriction, and then hormonal issues such as angiotensin.

So in some ways, Cialis is effective, but some of you who develop BP issues while using Tren etc, may find they need another type of med, like Telmisartan, to control angiotensin, and/or a diuretic to reduce excess fluid.

as to the back pump - what people don't realize is that their low back muscles work all the time, ALL THE TIME. Even sitting, the erector muscles are hard at work keeping you from just collapsing from the rib cage down.

So when you take something that increases glycogen utilization like AAS, you increase a muscle's pump, which then leads to increased lower back pain because that flexed muscle is already pumped as is.

Imagine if your biceps were responsible for keeping you standing up straight, imagine how pumped they would be.

Make sure that when you are doing deadlifts and squats, that you are loosening up your hip flexors before hand. The Psoas for instance, if "pumped" from AAS and then left shortened and tight, can really fuck up your back when you engage in lifting exercises involving the back.

In other words, even while wearing a belt, I have had my back "go out" on me during squats because i was on tren and dbol and I hadn't loosened up my hip flexors before going deep into a squat. The Psoas is like a mast on a sail of a ship, it pulls on the spine (the lumbar to be exact) in order to pull the hip up past 90 degrees. But if you let that fucker get pumped up and then it's already shortened due to sitting a lot at a desk etc, you can end up on the floor wishing you had never lifted a weight in your life.


I'll go into it more at some point if anyone is interested.
 
That is what cialis and viagra were originally used for, to dilate blood vessels and help control BP. It was only after using it in studies that they found it be so effective at erectile dysfunction.

The truth is though, there are a couple different ways that someone can develop blood pressure issues. There is fluid balance, blood vessel constriction, and then hormonal issues such as angiotensin.

So in some ways, Cialis is effective, but some of you who develop BP issues while using Tren etc, may find they need another type of med, like Telmisartan, to control angiotensin, and/or a diuretic to reduce excess fluid.

as to the back pump - what people don't realize is that their low back muscles work all the time, ALL THE TIME. Even sitting, the erector muscles are hard at work keeping you from just collapsing from the rib cage down.

So when you take something that increases glycogen utilization like AAS, you increase a muscle's pump, which then leads to increased lower back pain because that flexed muscle is already pumped as is.

Imagine if your biceps were responsible for keeping you standing up straight, imagine how pumped they would be.

Make sure that when you are doing deadlifts and squats, that you are loosening up your hip flexors before hand. The Psoas for instance, if "pumped" from AAS and then left shortened and tight, can really fuck up your back when you engage in lifting exercises involving the back.

In other words, even while wearing a belt, I have had my back "go out" on me during squats because i was on tren and dbol and I hadn't loosened up my hip flexors before going deep into a squat. The Psoas is like a mast on a sail of a ship, it pulls on the spine (the lumbar to be exact) in order to pull the hip up past 90 degrees. But if you let that fucker get pumped up and then it's already shortened due to sitting a lot at a desk etc, you can end up on the floor wishing you had never lifted a weight in your life.


I'll go into it more at some point if anyone is interested.

Good informative post, discohornet.
 
Ehren, ya u read that right, 70mg/wk Tren Ace. I wanted to experiment with the lowest dose possible being that this was my 1st run with Tren and Mast. It seems to be working from what I feel and from what everyone is saying. Haha. I'm going to grab some taurine for sure and do 5g PWO.

Wow, wish i responded like that to such small amounts of gear. My bodies so resilient to any drugs its silly, and it's not throug years of use, just always been that way.

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That is what cialis and viagra were originally used for, to dilate blood vessels and help control BP. It was only after using it in studies that they found it be so effective at erectile dysfunction.

The truth is though, there are a couple different ways that someone can develop blood pressure issues. There is fluid balance, blood vessel constriction, and then hormonal issues such as angiotensin.

So in some ways, Cialis is effective, but some of you who develop BP issues while using Tren etc, may find they need another type of med, like Telmisartan, to control angiotensin, and/or a diuretic to reduce excess fluid.

as to the back pump - what people don't realize is that their low back muscles work all the time, ALL THE TIME. Even sitting, the erector muscles are hard at work keeping you from just collapsing from the rib cage down.

So when you take something that increases glycogen utilization like AAS, you increase a muscle's pump, which then leads to increased lower back pain because that flexed muscle is already pumped as is.

Imagine if your biceps were responsible for keeping you standing up straight, imagine how pumped they would be.

Make sure that when you are doing deadlifts and squats, that you are loosening up your hip flexors before hand. The Psoas for instance, if "pumped" from AAS and then left shortened and tight, can really fuck up your back when you engage in lifting exercises involving the back.

In other words, even while wearing a belt, I have had my back "go out" on me during squats because i was on tren and dbol and I hadn't loosened up my hip flexors before going deep into a squat. The Psoas is like a mast on a sail of a ship, it pulls on the spine (the lumbar to be exact) in order to pull the hip up past 90 degrees. But if you let that fucker get pumped up and then it's already shortened due to sitting a lot at a desk etc, you can end up on the floor wishing you had never lifted a weight in your life.



I'll go into it more at some point if anyone is interested.

Very good and informative post. Makes total sense. Explains why I couldn't walk onthe treadmill after working out back. I got about 3 min into it and had to get off and get on the stationary bike.
 
Tadalafil (the chemical in Cialis) is also in Adcirca, a BP med; recommended dosage for BP is 40-50mg/day, however.

ADCIRCA (tadalafil) tablets Once-daily treatment for PAH

you'd be surprise how effective it is at even lower doses for the avg guy with occasional bp flairs.. I go on avg 5mg to 7mg ED maybe even up to 10mg ED at times after being on a while and notice I can build up drug tolerance but get a noticable effect for bp control, as a preworkout booster and even for intended sex performance boost... usually tho when reach certain point after a while I will take some time off since it does hinder my sex and ability to finish, not cool in my book...
 
I started my cialis today @ 9mg. I'll be monitoring blood pressure daily to see if that dose brings any changes. An update on strength. I been in Tren 2 wks now and Mast 1 wk and just upped my Test and Mast today. Last wk I hit 350 x 5 on bench, tonight, 365 x 6. Pretty impressive for small doses. I'm getting used to the pump and it's not as severe now. Just feels good. I have 2 complaints now. Lol. First, My biggest complaint now would be the tired, lazy, listless feeling I'm having. I could lay in bed all day long and sleep. It's hard to go to the gym but once there I hit it hard. Could this be a prolactin issue on only 100mg/wk Tren Ace ? I'll be upping my dose this wk of Mast Prop from 350 to 500mg/wk and I'm taking Test from 100mg/wk to 160-180mg/wk. I'm still using my Aromasin @ 12.5mg/day so is it possible with that much Mast I'm crashing my E2 levels ? Also, my 2nd issue is that, believe it or not, I'm bloated. WTF, I thought Tren would help burn fat.
 

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