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Test base in oil suspension?

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I was asked a question the other day to which I do not know the answer, so I thought I’d ask here. I had a friend ask me about the differences in the way test base behaves if it’s suspended in oil as opposed to in a water suspension. Since I’ve never seen that, I don’t know the answer to the question. I would assume that it’s a bit shorter acting than Prop, but would be considerably slower than suspension in a water base and would sit in the oil longer.

Anyone have experience with this?
 
I was asked a question the other day to which I do not know the answer, so I thought I’d ask here. I had a friend ask me about the differences in the way test base behaves if it’s suspended in oil as opposed to in a water suspension. Since I’ve never seen that, I don’t know the answer to the question. I would assume that it’s a bit shorter acting than Prop, but would be considerably slower than suspension in a water base and would sit in the oil longer.

Anyone have experience with this?
Test base in oil/TNE behaves almost identically to water based test suspension. Water is faster obv, but only marginally. Based on my own use id say time until it hits, water probably 15-30min and oil being 30-60min. But thats just what ive experienced
 
Test base in oil/TNE behaves almost identically to water based test suspension. Water is faster obv, but only marginally. Based on my own use id say time until it hits, water probably 15-30min and oil being 30-60min. But thats just what ive experienced
See? That’s why I asked… I would not have thought it would still hit that fast. Thank you!
 
The guaiacol in TNE will give you a nasty taste in your mouth the whole time you're on it. It feels like poison to me and your sweat will smell like old motor oil.

This was just my experience with anything with guaiacol in it.
 
I was asked a question the other day to which I do not know the answer, so I thought I’d ask here. I had a friend ask me about the differences in the way test base behaves if it’s suspended in oil as opposed to in a water suspension. Since I’ve never seen that, I don’t know the answer to the question. I would assume that it’s a bit shorter acting than Prop, but would be considerably slower than suspension in a water base and would sit in the oil longer.

Anyone have experience with this?
Your assumption is partially correct. TNE is is a fast acting entered testosterone but not quite as fast as suspension. It's typically used as a pre workout as like suspension but not nearly as much PIP with very little to none at all. Most administer 60-90min prior to strength training.
 
I enjoy TNE preworkout on hard days. Been a minute but the kind I use has no super solvents. Crashes easily but nothing a candle warmer can’t fix quickly
 
The guaiacol in TNE will give you a nasty taste in your mouth the whole time you're on it. It feels like poison to me and your sweat will smell like old motor oil.

This was just my experience with anything with guaiacol in it.
Hate that's crap as well. TNE can be brewed without guaiacol if brewed properly.
 
I just started using a sponsor's TNE and Tren NE suspended in oil and I really like it. Yeah, I experience some PIP, but it was well worth it. The half-life is supposedly 24hrs, it definitely felt like 24hrs, I had the same effect the next day at about the same time early afternoon.
Test base in oil/TNE behaves almost identically to water based test suspension.
Note: never tried Test suspension in water for a comparison.

 
One major thing to note is that test suspension usually has multiple release phases. There’s the initial rapid absorption for the content already dissolved in the water, but there’s also a secondary peak and sometimes even a 3rd peak as the crystallized testosterone that hadn’t dissolved in the water starts to disburse in the muscle. The pharmacokinetics charts on these are hard to pull as the release patterns and half life is extremely variable based on how fast the crystallized parts dissolve in the muscle.

Test no ester in oil is more straightforward. Pretty rapid absorption thats a lot more predictable. Only one peak, as there’s no crystallized particles that need to disolve in the muscle (it’s already full dissolved in the oil).

I’ve used both, I like TNE personally because I just use it pre workout and it serves the function, with less pip. Suspension is pretty fun too and a bit longer acting.

Charts for reference

CharacteristicTestosterone SuspensionTest Base (TNE)
VehicleWaterOil + solvents
Physical formCrystalline suspensionDissolved solution
AppearanceCloudy, particles settleClear oil
AbsorptionMulti-phase (rapid + delayed)Single rapid phase
Needle compatibilityMay clog thin needlesFlows easily
PIP severityHigher (water irritation)Variable (solvent-dependent)
Onset speedFaster, more intenseRapid but less peaked
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I just started using a sponsor's TNE and Tren NE suspended in oil and I really like it. Yeah, I experience some PIP, but it was well worth it. The half-life is supposedly 24hrs, it definitely felt like 24hrs, I had the same effect the next day at about the same time early afternoon.

Note: never tried Test suspension in water for a comparison.

never experienced that. Whether oil or water, 50mg of test base only affords me one amped up workout. Same with tren base.
 
Hate that's crap as well. TNE can be brewed without guaiacol if brewed properly.
A lot of vendors can make it in mig 812 @50mg/ml very comfortably without the need for super solvents.

They can also make it at 100mg/ml in 812 but it’s probably going to crash. It’s an easy fix though just throw it on the mug warmer and it’ll uncrash very fast, you’ll just have to use the mug warmer every time before pinning it most likely
 
I think I’ve still got about 15 bottles of the 50mg/ml stuff at home—it’s been sitting there for a few years and I have no idea what to do with it, lol.
Personally, I don’t like test base or anything fast-acting.
 
TNE reaction clearly depends on the carrier oil. The best TNE I ever used was in castor oil half life felt more like fast acting propionate with less bloat and more strength. I once gained close to 20 solid pounds off a 30 cc bottle of STERIS suspension. I cc buffered with 2 cc STERIS B12 EOD till empty.
Jurox Suspension was impossible to get through a 22 G. I used to draw a cc of oil base test and then the water base and it injected like butter. Stuck around a little longer.
 
never experienced that. Whether oil or water, 50mg of test base only affords me one amped up workout. Same with tren base.
It very well could be a placebo effect that I experience the next day, but I do still have a drive then I crash by Sunday evening. Just so we're clear with what I'm using, it's Sciroxx's Test base; Tren base; and injectable cheque drops. Saturday morning, I pinned .5cc of each: Test 50mg, Tren 25mg, & Cheque drops 500mcg. By Saturday night the girlfriend and I weren't done so I pinned another .5cc of each. I had a strong sex drive all the way into Sunday till about 1230-1pm then she had to get ready and leave. Test and Tren base are new, but for the last few years I've been using Test P, Tren P, and Cheque drops on the weekend. I got tired of using the propionate ester because I would experience mild sides from the Tren Monday into Tuesday. I'm loving the base no ester, no sides whatsoever and I get the result I'm looking for. Everybody is different and responds differently, maybe that shit just stays in my system longer than most. I haven't competed in powerlifting for decades, but I wish I had this combo back then.
 
It very well could be a placebo effect that I experience the next day, but I do still have a drive then I crash by Sunday evening. Just so we're clear with what I'm using, it's Sciroxx's Test base; Tren base; and injectable cheque drops. Saturday morning, I pinned .5cc of each: Test 50mg, Tren 25mg, & Cheque drops 500mcg. By Saturday night the girlfriend and I weren't done so I pinned another .5cc of each. I had a strong sex drive all the way into Sunday till about 1230-1pm then she had to get ready and leave. Test and Tren base are new, but for the last few years I've been using Test P, Tren P, and Cheque drops on the weekend. I got tired of using the propionate ester because I would experience mild sides from the Tren Monday into Tuesday. I'm loving the base no ester, no sides whatsoever and I get the result I'm looking for. Everybody is different and responds differently, maybe that shit just stays in my system longer than most. I haven't competed in powerlifting for decades, but I wish I had this combo back then.
Oh ok I gotcha now. Yeah I can’t really speak to that as I might be an outlier w regards to drive. It’s always been sky high no matter what I take. Have come off cold turkey for quite a while, had test levels in the basement, never affected the drive.

It may very well be efficacious for 24hrs in that regard but from a lifting standpoint I can’t get two workouts from one dose
 
I used 50mg and 100mg TNE a few times pre workout. Pumps were pretty incredible.

If you dont mind the pinning, it's probably a better option than a 17aa oral pre workout for an added boost.

Edit: I've just ordered Test Susp (water) 100mg/ml as I want to try it again!
 
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One major thing to note is that test suspension usually has multiple release phases. There’s the initial rapid absorption for the content already dissolved in the water, but there’s also a secondary peak and sometimes even a 3rd peak as the crystallized testosterone that hadn’t dissolved in the water starts to disburse in the muscle. The pharmacokinetics charts on these are hard to pull as the release patterns and half life is extremely variable based on how fast the crystallized parts dissolve in the muscle.

Test no ester in oil is more straightforward. Pretty rapid absorption thats a lot more predictable. Only one peak, as there’s no crystallized particles that need to disolve in the muscle (it’s already full dissolved in the oil).

I’ve used both, I like TNE personally because I just use it pre workout and it serves the function, with less pip. Suspension is pretty fun too and a bit longer acting.

Charts for reference

CharacteristicTestosterone SuspensionTest Base (TNE)
VehicleWaterOil + solvents
Physical formCrystalline suspensionDissolved solution
AppearanceCloudy, particles settleClear oil
AbsorptionMulti-phase (rapid + delayed)Single rapid phase
Needle compatibilityMay clog thin needlesFlows easily
PIP severityHigher (water irritation)Variable (solvent-dependent)
Onset speedFaster, more intenseRapid but less peaked
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Glad you posted this I argued for years with people who claimed you needed to inject TS several times a day to get any type of mass gains. Test without an ester yields some nice lean gains. Shuts ya down hard though like some of those pesky early pro hormones. Ha ha.
 
It very well could be a placebo effect that I experience the next day, but I do still have a drive then I crash by Sunday evening. Just so we're clear with what I'm using, it's Sciroxx's Test base; Tren base; and injectable cheque drops. Saturday morning, I pinned .5cc of each: Test 50mg, Tren 25mg, & Cheque drops 500mcg. By Saturday night the girlfriend and I weren't done so I pinned another .5cc of each. I had a strong sex drive all the way into Sunday till about 1230-1pm then she had to get ready and leave. Test and Tren base are new, but for the last few years I've been using Test P, Tren P, and Cheque drops on the weekend. I got tired of using the propionate ester because I would experience mild sides from the Tren Monday into Tuesday. I'm loving the base no ester, no sides whatsoever and I get the result I'm looking for. Everybody is different and responds differently, maybe that shit just stays in my system longer than most. I haven't competed in powerlifting for decades, but I wish I had this combo back then.
I kid you not as I was going down the thread I was wondering about TNEs effect on libido and I was thinking back to your post and your sex weekend stack. I couldn’t remember who posted it but I read about it in March. Must make for a fun time.
 

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