Test, Deca, Tren, Dbol/Drol + slin +GH

[Pbfanatic321]

Okay so I have been on 250mg of Sus weekly since my show finished, which was over a month ago, so I am planning my upcoming blast which should should start in about a month or two. I wanna here some people's ideas on a good blast, obviously diet is in check. I am currently on 5iu rips a day right now, split 2iu upon wakening and 3iu between meal 5&6, and I will be on that for a longg time and the dosage may increase. This is going to be my first run with slin, and I am going to follow Mike Arnold's pre-workout protocol with Humalog. I have read mixed reviews on Tren + deca together, as well as dbol + anadrol together, but I have ran tren and deca separately and neither shut me down. The doses on the orals obviously will not be too high (if i do decide to run both together) cause I don't want to destroy my liver. My pre contest cycle consisted of 750 test/600eq/300tren/50mg proviron ED/50mg winnie EOD.

I want to see how effective tren + deca would be together, but I have also never ran dbol so I may just do dbol solo instead of adding in anadrol as well. I am thinking a 12 week blast with something like this:

Week 1-12 Test E or Sus 750mg/week
Week 1-10 Deca 600mg/week
Week 4-12 (or 1-8, whatever would be best) Tren A 300mg/week
Week 1-5 (if both orals are added) Dbol 25mg/day Anadrol 50mg/day
If just Dbol then 50mg/day maybe work up to 75mg/day

Humalog 15iu pre workout following Mike Arnold's protocol.
Rips 5iu/day

Caber .5mg E3D Aromasin 12.5mg ED

What would you guys say about this? Any advice from people who have ran both Deca and Tren together? I am leaning more towards just Dbol since I have never ran it before, so no need to add something else with it because I would like to see how well it works on its own.

Also, I will be doing only 4 weeks of insulin, at what point during the cycle do you think would be best to add it in? Beginning, middle, end? I feel like it would be best towards the middle once all the gear is fully kicked in.

And once the slin is added into the mix I think I will take 5iu in conjunction with my insulin preworkout instead of doing the split dosages like I am now.

Thanks everyone.

 

[Bigtiny8859]

looks ok but id take the caber .5 at least EOD if not ED cuz its not gonna hurt it will only help keep prolactin in check and u got 900mg worth of 19-nors...

 

[rradam]

Personally i'd pick the higher dose of dbol or drol vs. low doses combined.

 

[Knight9]

More isn't always better... better is better.

I would focus more on your diet.
I would use as little gear as possible so I can increase it at plateaus of my cycle.
That would also go for food... increased food at plateaus.

I'd run humulin. And and I would not only run it four weeks unless you are just doing a four week blast cycle.... or you become fat or extremely desensitized.

I see you throwing a hodgepodge of stuff together and hoping for the best. I don't really agree with that philosophy.

It's more important to match your knowledge and plan to your cycle... not just say "I have a lot of ambition" and I am going to take everything I have ever read that is strong and put it all together.

 

[Bigtiny8859]

More isn't always better... better is better.

I would focus more on your diet.
I would use as little gear as possible so I can increase it at plateaus of my cycle.
That would also go for food... increased food at plateaus.

I'd run humulin. And and I would not only run it four weeks unless you are just doing a four week blast cycle.... or you become fat or extremely desensitized.

I see you throwing a hodgepodge of stuff together and hoping for the best. I don't really agree with that philosophy.

It's more important to match your knowledge and plan to your cycle... not just say "I have a lot of ambition" and I am going to take everything I have ever read that is strong and put it all together.

makes a good point, u could run the test and tren or deca then throw the third in after a couple months. i made gains almost for a whole year just by starting low and increasing/changing compounds/ adding new ones....

 

[anarchocapitalist]

i'm just a nobody who likes a workout and not a expert on the subject but i just run testosterone through the offseason and save the harder stuff like tren and dbol for a competition. i'd just sooner run, if you want to hit those totals, 5-6cc's of a cyp250 or some other testosterone, whatever slin protocol you like (preWO is a more of a hassle for me), and as much growth as you can afford.

 

[MightyJohn]

Yeah looks too complicated for Me to do...I'd stick with 1-2 compounds in the dose You want

 

[BA69]

So by the time your body is starting to adjust to the nandrolone blood concentration rising sharply from the deca on week 4, you want to introduce Tren Ace??? I would advise to push it back until week 6. And you plan on being on Anadrol as well so by week 4, it should be an interesting side effect ridden ride, lol.

I personally don't like the cycle. I think NPP is better than Deca and I like to keep nandrolone cycles short. If I had to improve your cycle, I would drop the idea of Anadrol, start the Tren on week 6, and keep lots of cabergoline on hand.

 

[Pbfanatic321]

More isn't always better... better is better.

I would focus more on your diet.
I would use as little gear as possible so I can increase it at plateaus of my cycle.
That would also go for food... increased food at plateaus.

I'd run humulin. And and I would not only run it four weeks unless you are just doing a four week blast cycle.... or you become fat or extremely desensitized.

I see you throwing a hodgepodge of stuff together and hoping for the best. I don't really agree with that philosophy.

It's more important to match your knowledge and plan to your cycle... not just say "I have a lot of ambition" and I am going to take everything I have ever read that is strong and put it all together.

Thanks for the advice. I understand using as little gear as possible, but since I've ran deca in the past and my last cycle was 750 test/600eq/300tren doesn't your body adapt to the doses and you need to increase over time? At least that is what I have read a lot, but could be a bunch of crap. But that's why the gear/dosages may seem quite high.

 

[Pbfanatic321]

So by the time your body is starting to adjust to the nandrolone blood concentration rising sharply from the deca on week 4, you want to introduce Tren Ace??? I would advise to push it back until week 6. And you plan on being on Anadrol as well so by week 4, it should be an interesting side effect ridden ride, lol.

I personally don't like the cycle. I think NPP is better than Deca and I like to keep nandrolone cycles short. If I had to improve your cycle, I would drop the idea of Anadrol, start the Tren on week 6, and keep lots of cabergoline on hand.

What does moving tren from week 4 to 6 really improve? You bring the point that nandrolone blood concentration will be rising by week 4 so it wouldn't be wise to toss in tren that week, but if i move the tren to week 6 it isn't like the nandrolone blood concentration is any less at that week.

And sorry for any spelling errors as i am using my phone with auto correct right now.

 

[muhkuh123]

Way to much caber (especially cuz it's TrenA instead of E) if you got real stuff ...if it's UG crap, nobody knows ...maybe it's even cialis or just got 50% in it ...nobody knows what a guy in his basement produces...

 

[aminoman74]

Less you can get away with is best for gear. I use that cycle minus the tren and add eq. Tren kills my good moods.

 

[Pbfanatic321]

Less you can get away with is best for gear. I use that cycle minus the tren and add eq. Tren kills my good moods.

Do you run both dbol and anadrol?

 

[anarchocapitalist]

Less you can get away with is best for gear. I use that cycle minus the tren and add eq. Tren kills my good moods.

esp for an off season bulk i'd sooner just run the basics.