Test dosages

Jerry2222 · Jan 6, 2015

I must have missed something...What the heck happened to test dose ranges being used. For example when i started over 10 years ago 1 x mexican organon sos redject 250mg was a normal starting dose for a beginner and you could get to 200 lbs easily under 6'0 with proper nutrition. I see people posting 1000 mg weekly test doses and their avatar looks like a natural fitness type physique or someone that you wouldnt know that he works out if wearing a tshirt. 500 mg of test was what a solid over 200 lb bodybuilder would use and trust me that type of individual actually looked like a bodybuilder. Im completely confused why people think 1000 mg of test is needed so early. 1000 mg of total compounds would have been considered a heavy stack for anyone very well developed already. Is there something I missed along the way? Just a little confused after hearing a lot of guys using high dosages and the physiques their daunting. I have goals as well but I dont feel that i cant reach them on moderate dosing and great nutrition and training, I just check the supps box and focus and the other stuff. Hope this isn't a super repeated topic, apologize if it is guys.

Guillotines · Jan 6, 2015

I'm still using normal ass dosages and I'm growing fine.

NY Muscle · Jan 7, 2015

I hear you OP. What I have learned over the years observing this high dose nonsense is these little guys taking a gram and more and not much to show for it are the ones who got in the lifting game late or didn't build a good solid natural base.

I started lifting at 13 and 1st cycle at 23. I blew up on one Russian sust per week and 3 winstrol depots per week. Got big and lean because my body was primed from the great base I built. Heck I was getting accused of juicing in high school but all I was doing was eating and lifting hard 6 days a week.

Now these guys who never built that base have more or less "cursed" themselves so to say and their body relies on the drugs. The foundation was never there and is still not there. It is what it is.

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Riles · Jan 7, 2015

We were having the same conversation yesterday at the gym, I started cycling when I was 29, had a decent base, diet was super clean, all whole foods, never went over 250mg, put on a solid 40 lbs in 2 1/2 years, I hear a lot of the younger guys talking about huge dosing schedules

TrinityD · Jan 7, 2015

Yeah 300 test can take you pretty far if used appropriately coupled with decent-good genetics

Jerry2222 · Jan 7, 2015

Makes sense. Like NYM says if guys are using without a base of muscle already they must become dependent on drugs for gains. Then when they come off there is no natural base to fall back on. Sounds like a newer trend for guys late to the game or in a hurry.

Marvin Martian · Jan 7, 2015

I don't understand how these guys look the way they do on those INSANE dosages... At a gram a week I was growing so fast that it HURT... The thing that really surprises me is how many of the guys seem PROUD of the high dosages - where I would be embarrassed if I looked like that with those amounts.. I just think that drugs are used to totally replace diet and training..

Riles · Jan 7, 2015

Being on gear feels good, but if you don't eat right and train right, you'll most likely see minimal gains, if any, so the next best thing to do is brag about your insane dosage levels, seems to be more of an issue with less experienced users, there is a time and place for such dosing but most of us don't have the genetics or finances to take it all the way, IMO

Jerry2222 · Jan 8, 2015

Marvin Martian said:
I don't understand how these guys look the way they do on those INSANE dosages... At a gram a week I was growing so fast that it HURT... The thing that really surprises me is how many of the guys seem PROUD of the high dosages - where I would be embarrassed if I looked like that with those amounts.. I just think that drugs are used to totally replace diet and training..

They're nutrition must suck. Ive never been above 750 and ive been pretty happy with progress. I wish I was consistent more so that I can reach my goals fast but nonetheless happy. Some of these guys posting in the pic areas and their avatars are that of a small fitness guy or runner or something. But yet their on 1000 mg test and 600mg of tren, hell even gh or insulin on top of that. I certainly wouldnt post the fact that im genetically inferior than most others. Maybe there is a little distortion of reality. I think to myself do they think they are huge or ripped in these pics or do they realize the average person wouldnt recognize if they even train or not. What happened to the days of understating dosages, lol. If i was on 750 test, 400 mg tren and 25mg dbol my communicated cycle would most likely be something like 400 mg test, 300 mg tren and I would leave out the dbol because id feel a little guilty for doing all that, hah.

Lifted^Research · Jan 8, 2015

true talk, well said brother! very good discussion. No need to brag about such high dosing with minimal results.

GS · Jan 10, 2015

First cycle was 100mg three times a week for 8 weeks and my weight went up 18 pounds.
That being said after that cycle 21 years ago ,my doses have went up just a tad