Test levels and enlarged prostate

[Voxide]

you're on a gram of sust and yr test level is only 2400?
that's terrilble. way way too low.

I totally overlooked that part.

OP, you need to have a word with your source lol

 

[kandaandm]

No joke...he wouldn't provide me much info other than tell me my levels were 2400, my prostate was enlarged via physical examination and I needed to stop test immediately cold turkey with no pct.
When I asked about HCG, Finasteride etc the bastard called me Mr Drugs...told me he was the Dr and cold turkey is the only way.

I'm looking for another Dr.

you're on a gram of sust and yr test level is only 2400?
that's terrilble. way way too low.
and why would a doc NOT tell you what he did when yr test level, even being way too low on a gram, is still 3 times higher than normal?
or is this thread a joke and i fell for it by replying.

 

[kandaandm]

Late 40s

It may take finasteride 6 months for someone with normal TEST levels but guarantee with your levels it will help very quickly.

How old are you?

 

[kandaandm]

I was on 500 for a time and changed to 1000. Not sure if my bloods were done when on 500 or 1000....may have been when I was 500 a week.

What range should they be at for 500 or 1000 a week?

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you're on a gram of sust and yr test level is only 2400?
that's terrilble. way way too low.
and why would a doc NOT tell you what he did when yr test level, even being way too low on a gram, is still 3 times higher than normal?
or is this thread a joke and i fell for it by replying.

 

[gotgame]

via physical mean could be normalish, could be slightly enlarged, could be very enlarged... means very little to me.

Get it checked via MRI, check PSA. Go from there.

 

[kandaandm]

Told me it was very enlarged...close to double due to testosterone use...giving a urinalysis later today. He already has my bloods as my GI Dr and Primary Care are at the same facility and I did them a few weeks ago. They all have access to my files.

via physical mean could be normalish, could be slightly enlarged, could be very enlarged... means very little to me.

Get it checked via MRI, check PSA. Go from there.

 

[maldorf]

I was on 500 for a time and changed to 1000. Not sure if my bloods were done when on 500 or 1000....may have been when I was 500 a week.

What range should they be at for 500 or 1000 a week?

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Well, not sure if the response is totally linear, but Im on 100 mg/wk and that puts me at around 850. So 5x that would be 4250, which is still about 2x what your's was. Ive never had levels done when I was taking that much so have no experience with it.

 

[maldorf]

Told me it was very enlarged...close to double due to testosterone use...giving a urinalysis later today. He already has my bloods as my GI Dr and Primary Care are at the same facility and I did them a few weeks ago. They all have access to my files.

How bad is your urine flow stream affected? I would think that if it is 2x the normal size that you would be having trouble urinating. You should have a PSA done, and should have one each year to watch the trend of how it is going up or down.

 

[kandaandm]

My PSA was 0.93 which is in the normal range.
Yes I noticed trouble intermittently urinating, but wasn't sure if it was from developing IBS some months back..so I followed up with a Urologist.

I'm going to taper off and/or down as well as get my prostate in normal range size, however, I wanted to do it under Dr supervision and get on Test replacement therapy as well as get my bloods monitored.

I'm looking for another Dr as this guy was horrible....especially upset me when he called me Mr Drugs when I suggested a PCT instead of crashing cold turkey as he suggested.

I dont feel comfortable trusting him.

How bad is your urine flow stream affected? I would think that if it is 2x the normal size that you would be having trouble urinating. You should have a PSA done, and should have one each year to watch the trend of how it is going up or down.

 

[Voxide]

This doc sounds like a cuck. Definitely go with someone else.

 

[lif22]

Sounds like he was being a little dramatic with the "almost double". Very unprofessional.

 

[Hastur]

Lowering your Test would definitely help. I don't know if I'd personally go cold turkey, since there appears to be some prostate benefits to being on TRT at a minimum. I guess it all depends on the severity of it. What I personally use to help my own symptoms:

-Tadalafil (Cialis) for enlarged prostate/benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH)
-Metformin for the potential anti-prostate cancer effects
-RAD140 for reducing the androgenic side effects of testosterone on the prostate

I also avoid Pseudoephedrine, which is in many nasal decongestants, and avoid antihistamines as well which helps manage my symptoms. If I get sick and have to take one or both then urinating immediately becomes far more difficult.

One other thing:

Tamsulosin (Flomax) is an alpha-1 adrenergic receptor blocker that is used for BPH, and though I have never used it myself I have heard positive reports from those who do.


Best of luck sorting this out, brother!

 

[Deleted member 121863]

How long have you been on 500mg-1000mg? The body does need a break from blast levels. You said you wanna get on TRT, you already have test, PUT YOURSELF ON TRT! That`s first step. Being late 40`s and likely on gear for quite some time, coming off completely is not a good idea. Tapering off or down is a waste of effort, just cut the dose or just come off. Tapering is for when there will be withdrawal symptoms from physically addicting drugs.

 

[kandaandm]

I'd be tapering down to trt or PCT. Going to a testosterone therapy Dr office next week to get their input according to the labs.

How long have you been on 500mg-1000mg? The body does need a break from blast levels. You said you wanna get on TRT, you already have test, PUT YOURSELF ON TRT! That`s first step. Being late 40`s and likely on gear for quite some time, coming off completely is not a gfreeood idea. Tapering off or down is a waste of effort, just cut the dose or just come off. Tapering is for when there will be withdrawal symptoms from physically addicting drugs.

 

[Reload]

If you are like me, I had trouble urinating and found myself getting up in the middle of the night about 5 times.

I was having this same problem. Reduced my test to TRT doses and added 10mg Cialis/day. Now I get up to pee at most 2x night.

 

[maldorf]

I was having this same problem. Reduced my test to TRT doses and added 10mg Cialis/day. Now I get up to pee at most 2x night.

Flomax did the trick for me. Im already taking 100 mg/wk tesosterone so cant really reduce that. My PSA was up around 4.0. Its down to around 2 now. Always been on the high side.

 

[maldorf]

My PSA was 0.93 which is in the normal range.
Yes I noticed trouble intermittently urinating, but wasn't sure if it was from developing IBS some months back..so I followed up with a Urologist.

I'm going to taper off and/or down as well as get my prostate in normal range size, however, I wanted to do it under Dr supervision and get on Test replacement therapy as well as get my bloods monitored.

I'm looking for another Dr as this guy was horrible....especially upset me when he called me Mr Drugs when I suggested a PCT instead of crashing cold turkey as he suggested.

I dont feel comfortable trusting him.

Good plan. Start dropping the dose now, so take no more than 800 mg this week. Keep dropping it. I wouldn't visit a doctor for HRT until you have been off everything for at least 2 or 3 months. By then you should have an idea where your natural test levels are stuck at. If you go in while you are still on then your test levels are still going to be high. Going off cold turkey sucks, but I did it . Didn't taper or anything since I had my heart attack. My endo had me try for 11 months to have my level recover but my total T never got up over about 65.

 

[Reload]

Flomax did the trick for me. Im already taking 100 mg/wk tesosterone so cant really reduce that. My PSA was up around 4.0. Its down to around 2 now. Always been on the high side.

I could have gone that route but after I tried Cialis and got some relief I just stuck with it vs. going to my PCP and getting on another scrip med. The effect it has on my BP was a nice benefit. So much so that I tappered of my Amlodipine (off now about a month). BP's now consistently low 130's over mid/upper 80's which I'm happy with. May look into Lisinopril later if I feel I need tighter control. I've been doing 10-15mg/day test for awhile now and feel it was one of the best decisions this older guy ever made.

 

[maldorf]

I could have gone that route but after I tried Cialis and got some relief I just stuck with it vs. going to my PCP and getting on another scrip med. The effect it has on my BP was a nice benefit. So much so that I tappered of my Amlodipine (off now about a month). BP's now consistently low 130's over mid/upper 80's which I'm happy with. May look into Lisinopril later if I feel I need tighter control. I've been doing 10-15mg/day test for awhile now and feel it was one of the best decisions this older guy ever made.

That is good it worked for you. I would get that BP down some more though with a really low dose of lisinopril. When I tried Cialis it gave me a terrible headache, so bad I that all I wanted to do was lie in bed. Never had headaches that bad. I guess that is a side some get.

 

[rookx750]

Fire him and hire another doctor.

It sucks you still have to pay for the interview process but unless you really like the guy get another opinion.

Hahaha AMEN, as you probably tell from all my other post, I so fed up with healthcare now a days. Technology should make weeding this out, but it seems like we are going in the other direction.


To answer your quest YES leave and never go back. With a prostate double the size is something not to blow off though.

How did he find out the prostate was doule the size. Ct????
(PSA is becoming less and less useful test for what really going on with your prostate)

You need a true healthy testosterone lever not over 700 and that’s a lil high.

There are some links to estrogen being more a problem but idk if you should argue that but keep it somewhat in range at least.

I don’t know how bad the situation is but there is so much on protest health out there, I could go on forever. I not qualified to give advice on the direction to take on this on.

Carl Lanore had a lot of basic prostate health info BUT there are guys that have been through it and are so educated so hopefully someone will jump in.