Test P ED vs EOD?

[trenisbest]

Through searching i’ve seen some like @b-boy or @Black Beard say they pin it EOD, and some ED. I see many say it should be ED regardless of the ester, but I think it would make far less difference pinning ED vs EOD with longer esters like C/E. With Test P i would think the difference between ED and EOD pinning would have a much more substantial difference due to the shorter half life.

With 200mg TP EOD you will reach about 140mg of concentration (pin days) but every second day (the day you don’t pin) you’ll have around 50mg in blood stream… with ED pins (100mg each) you’ll be stable at 100mg during the cycle.

Does this make a tangible differen in results? How you feel? Water retention? (@Black Beard said he had less water retention from EOD/MWF.)

 

[traininsane11]

In my opinion you sir have a classic case of overthinking syndrome

Do 1 way for a while see how you get on
Do the other

Decide and stick with that

 

[Zamun]

Even ED had me with insane fluctuations. I no longer use it.

Would pin at 9 am, pulled bloods at 2 pm with 2500 total, and 7 am the next morning with 400 total

 

[cage99]

ED if I’m using Propionate ester. No need to subject myself to unnecessary hormone fluctuations when I can control that by using it daily.

Cage

 

[ironmaster73]

Back in the day early to mid 90's I would inject test p 2xwk mon200mg/thur200mg it was dosed at 100mg/ml. We did it that way as the old Bill Phillips handbook said it had a 4 day half-life. Thinking back always felt great using it that way and would stack it with injectable stanazol 50mg eod water-based stuff. Would always bring me in great shape for my bodybuilding shows from 6 weeks out.

 

[P30LEM]

Even ED had me with insane fluctuations. I no longer use it.

Would pin at 9 am, pulled bloods at 2 pm with 2500 total, and 7 am the next morning with 400 total

This was about my experience with it as well. Even with longer esters like test e, testing peak vs trough was eye opening to how much my levels were actually fluctuating on twice weekly injections.

 

[Flocci]

Through searching i’ve seen some like @b-boy or @Black Beard say they pin it EOD, and some ED. I see many say it should be ED regardless of the ester, but I think it would make far less difference pinning ED vs EOD with longer esters like C/E. With Test P i would think the difference between ED and EOD pinning would have a much more substantial difference due to the shorter half life.

With 200mg TP EOD you will reach about 140mg of concentration (pin days) but every second day (the day you don’t pin) you’ll have around 50mg in blood stream… with ED pins (100mg each) you’ll be stable at 100mg during the cycle.

Does this make a tangible differen in results? How you feel? Water retention? (@Black Beard said he had less water retention from EOD/MWF.)

why dont you try both yourself and make up your own opinion?

i never noticed a difference ED vs EOD with test prop or tren ace

 

[trenisbest]

why dont you try both yourself and make up your own opinion?

i never noticed a difference ED vs EOD with test prop or tren ace

Yes I will. Was just curious if anyone had any experience with it beforehand and if it would make a difference to gains with such large fluctuations.

 

[Siggy]

I had good results pinning EOD. I felt good and the gains were good. No sides I could feel, I dont care if it aromatized slightly more than pinning ED or about any peaks and troughs.

 

[qbkilla]

I've ran it for years Ed no issues. I switched to eod about 2 weeks ago and felt a small lump under my right niipple when showering. Never in my life needed an anti e so was surprised. Switched back to Ed and added mast it went away after 10 days. Maybe it hd nothing to do with the eod but will just keep Ed from now on.

 

[trenisbest]

I've ran it for years Ed no issues. I switched to eod about 2 weeks ago and felt a small lump under my right niipple when showering. Never in my life needed an anti e so was surprised. Switched back to Ed and added mast it went away after 10 days. Maybe it hd nothing to do with the eod but will just keep Ed from now on.

Appreciate the insight. Notice any other differences in that short time? Mood? Water Retension? Anything? Or the same?

 

[qbkilla]

Appreciate the insight. Notice any other differences in that short time? Mood? Water Retension? Anything? Or the same?

No other observations. But I will say, in my opinion, im a very poor responder to aas in general. I've never got sides and overall just don't respond much regardless of compounds even orals and gh. I have naturally low igf...4iu gh puts not barley in the bottom of normal range

 

[Elvia1023]

I pin my test p every 23 days. Lower sex drive but also less water retention.

 

[FuzzyFella]

In my opinion you sir have a classic case of overthinking syndrome

Do 1 way for a while see how you get on
Do the other

Decide and stick with that

Bro dont tell them the secret, forum traffic will drop 90% without those basic questions being asked by generation after generation of newbs

 

[TomJ]

Just don't use test p.
Easy.
There's no benefit to using short esters, you're just getting less stable serum levels and double the injection volume.

 

[Mufasa123]

Probably useful to add that as total weekly dose of a short ester goes up, those peaks and valleys get bigger and this becomes a potentially larger problem.

Consider on HRT doses a roller coaster moves up/down 6 feet. On blast doses it's now 60 feet. Might tolerable in one case and less so in the next. At some point it probably does start to matter for everyone.

 

[qbkilla]

Probably useful to add that as total weekly dose of a short ester goes up, those peaks and valleys get bigger and this becomes a potentially larger problem.

Consider on HRT doses a roller coaster moves up/down 6 feet. On blast doses it's now 60 feet. Might tolerable in one case and less so in the next. At some point it probably does start to matter for everyone.

I know ive seen a site posted that showed the peaks and valleys if you plugged in dose, frequency and Ester. Any idea if these graphs are accurate?

 

[Swifto]

No one can tell you, you have to experiment and try both dosing protocols and see what works for you.

 

[P30LEM]

I know ive seen a site posted that showed the peaks and valleys if you plugged in dose, frequency and Ester. Any idea if these graphs are accurate?

Steroidplotter.com

They can give you a rough idea but they're not meant to be super accurate.

 

[Flex500]

Steroidplotter.com

They can give you a rough idea but they're not meant to be super accurate.

was just going to post this...

100mgs Test Prop DAILY


200mgs Test Prop EOD