Test pills ?

[Gunzanbunz]

Just wondering if anyone is using these? and do you have any issues with them? Im currently getting 10 testo pellets like every 5 months. but my doctor suggested them last time i saw him. the pellets are ok but i dont like letting my level getting so low at the end just make sure insurance covers them.
Thanks

 

[TEHL]

I used testo in pills, very back in time and it is was useless.... unfortunately testosterone must be injected.
Testosterone has almost no bioavailability taken by mouth.

 

[Golden]

they used to do test undecoanate in a capsule form years ago called andriol - no idea how they’d be for Trt but I got sweet FA from using them in a cycle personally

Not even sure if they still make them?

 

[abt10]

I used testo in pills, very back in time and it is was useless.... unfortunately testosterone must be injected.
Testosterone has almost no bioavailability taken by mouth.

do you know this as fact or just repeating forum posts ?
oral test base does raise serum levels.. its just that it must be taken multiple times throughout the day to maintain sustained levels.
for gen-pop this is inconvenient compared to weekly injections or dermal applications.

this is proven by multiple blood tests .. see raypeat forums.

 

[Swifto]

they used to do test undecoanate in a capsule form years ago called andriol - no idea how they’d be for Trt but I got sweet FA from using them in a cycle personally

Not even sure if they still make them?

It's been discontinued by Merck and Organon.

Hi Tech owns the ANDRIOL trademark in the USA and I own the trademark in the UK.

 

[TEHL]

do you know this as fact or just repeating forum posts ?
oral test base does raise serum levels.. its just that it must be taken multiple times throughout the day to maintain sustained levels.
for gen-pop this is inconvenient compared to weekly injections or dermal applications.

this is proven by multiple blood tests .. see raypeat forums.

I used Andriol and it's not even comparable to TestE..... I don't know if ever tried both.

But for TRT injection is the way, but if you think at the amount you have to use it's convenient injectable anyways.

Real men inject

 

[Golden]

It's been discontinued by Merck and Organon.

Hi Tech owns the ANDRIOL trademark in the USA and I own the trademark in the UK.

It was the mid 90’s when I used it last - I used organon. Couple of my friends had a load of it, no idea if we didn’t take enough but found it underwhelming to say the least

 

[Gunzanbunz]

This was just recently. i wonder if the pills have got any better. and idk if i would want to take multiple times daily either. i thought he said these where once a day. but i could be mistaken.
Thanks

 

[yellowbird1]

Pellets only exist to make doctors money bc they can charge for the procedure. You can't control your testosterone levels with them and like you said it drops to nothing as they wear out.

You want scrotal cream (not gel) from a competent compounding pharmacy or injections. There's really no other options. Cream is now as effective as injections. You can see my labs for proof here: Post in thread 'Who has tried testosterone gel? Any positive effects?' https://www.professionalmuscle.com/...-gel-any-positive-effects.189573/post-3595995

Also stop thinking in terms of insurance. If you want it done right it's very rare to find a doc that understands trt that takes insurance. If you need help you can find good information and providers in the Facebook group: trt and hormone optimization

 

[Josefein421]

I knew a few guys who got implanted pellets bc they were convinced by their doc. HATED them and had complications.

 

[Goodfella1988]

I don’t see how any pill would be able to replicate that of how an inject oil would work. I just don’t see any pill thats going to be able to last as long in your system as an inject would. If so, I would think that pill would be quite toxic to be able to last as an inject

 

[jray26]

I knew a few guys who got implanted pellets bc they were convinced by their doc. HATED them and had complications.

This is good to know. Had considered it at one point. I'm glad you shared this.

 

[Josefein421]

This is good to know. Had considered it at one point. I'm glad you shared this.

This was years back before TRT was as acceptable/common. 1 guy had legit super low T at late 20's amongst other health issues. Got the pellets and they hurt, came through skin and I think there was an infection or something? The other was a bodybuilder that had a TRT doc that was very accommodating and suggested them as an option and he tried them as a baseline level and found them uncomfortable and that they weren't as stable as daily injections. Whether that was placebo or not I dont know but both guys switched to injections and had no issues.

 

[qbkilla]

Real men inject

This, if it ain't broken don't fix it. I remember back about 2009 worked out at a local gym there was a well known guy in the industry opened one of those pellets clinics...I wonder how many fell for it.

 

[JUICEDUP3]

waste.. just get a slin pin and watch the magic

 

[Gunzanbunz]

I knew a few guys who got implanted pellets bc they were convinced by their doc. HATED them and had complications.

I have been on the implanted pellets for 2 years with no problems. im just getting tired of my levels peak at around 1200 and the drop into the mid 300's before the next round. you have to be at or below 350 for insurance to cover it. and you have to labs a week before.

 

[jray26]

This was years back before TRT was as acceptable/common. 1 guy had legit super low T at late 20's amongst other health issues. Got the pellets and they hurt, came through skin and I think there was an infection or something? The other was a bodybuilder that had a TRT doc that was very accommodating and suggested them as an option and he tried them as a baseline level and found them uncomfortable and that they weren't as stable as daily injections. Whether that was placebo or not I dont know but both guys switched to injections and had no issues.

And pinning somehow seems easier than having something shoved into your ass

 

[TedDansen]

Oral test undecanoate has an average half life of 1.5-2 hours. They recommend taking it twice daily, but even at that frequency you're going to have large fluctuations through the day. Compare that to injectable enanthate with an average half life of 4.5 days which is usually taken at least twice a week, and even better daily. To get that kind of stability with the pills you'd be taking them every hour, even through the night.

Whether or not you actually need that stability would depend on how your body is responding and what the side effects are like. I can understand not wanting to inject and and wanting to take what the doctor recommends, but in this case it's just not a very good option.

 

[BigKevKris]

I ended up with (25) Testoheal 40mg Test Undeconate Capsules in a trade just because and I dont know what to do with them other than maybe eat some preworkout. Like 200mg worth maybe? No Clue. Apparently these new Oral T pills do actually work from what Ive read but Ill never put the needle down to switch to that shit. Just wondering if anyone has real experience or recommendation. Otherwise Im going to use them like TNE preworkout.

 

[BigKevKris]

Oral test undecanoate has an average half life of 1.5-2 hours. They recommend taking it twice daily, but even at that frequency you're going to have large fluctuations through the day. Compare that to injectable enanthate with an average half life of 4.5 days which is usually taken at least twice a week, and even better daily. To get that kind of stability with the pills you'd be taking them every hour, even through the night.

Whether or not you actually need that stability would depend on how your body is responding and what the side effects are like. I can understand not wanting to inject and and wanting to take what the doctor recommends, but in this case it's just not a very good option.

Supposedly you take 2 40mg caps a day of these testoheal for a TRT regime. 80mg? I think natural Test release is around that amount. Not sure if there are any reports to prove it works.