Testosterone or Tren increases blood pressure the most?

[headtrainer]

Does testosterone or Tren cause your blood pressure to increase the most?

 

[b_cornelius]

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Potency of tren vs test says everything that you need to know, and all steroids increase the expression of Calcium Channel Proteins and more. Testosterone is both an Androgen that does this, yet Testosterone also blocks calcium channels for a sort of valence to it. Nortestosterone such as Tren does not block calcium channels. So you have that on top of the particular metabolic strength of your total androgens.

 

[Kaladryn]

Test without controlling estradiol causes major BP issues for some people, myself included. Test with controlled estradiol cause me almost zero BP issues.

 

[headtrainer]

Test without controlling estradiol causes major BP issues for some people, myself included. Test with controlled estradiol cause me almost zero BP issues.

Kaladryn, I’ve also noticed that the water retention from test when not using an Aromatase inhibitor increases my blood pressure a lot more than Tren. Higher blood pressure leads to fatigue and erectile dysfunction. It’s possible that is some cases it’s the elevated blood pressure from combining test and Tren that causes erectile dysfunction and fatigue instead of increased prolactin levels from Tren. It’s my understanding that Tren magnifies estrogen conversion from test through the progesterone receptor. Does that make sense to you?

 

[Kaladryn]

I get the first part: I don't think higher BP leads to fatigue and ED, I actually get harder boners when BP is high, fatigue maybe but that would probably be from secondary effect from the high BP.

The second part I don't fully get. Tren activates the progesterone receptor and the estrogen receptor, it doesn't "magnify estrogen conversion" but it may act as a co-binding factor for E2 if it doesn't activate the ER itself. It doesn't matter if you use tren and test together or just test, estrogen will be a problem either way. As for prolactin, I don't get that either, tren doesn't increase prolactin, it either activates the prolactin receptor OR it acts as a cobinding factor for prolactin. However, lowering E2 or prolactin may alleviate side effects from tren, and can introduce other side effects.

Tren is basically a SERM, a SARM, and an SProgestinRM