The definition of insanity... (HGH related)

[nothuman]

RHR back down to low 60s this morning after stopping it. I think it's safe to say that was definitely the cause

 

[finephysique]

I have been tracking my heart rate on and off gh for the past year and it increased dramatically when on, I ve now found 1.5 iu five mornings per week gives me a decent gh effect but my resting heart rate is staying around 50, I am going to try completely off for a month to see if I can keep it in the 40's

 

[x1xjcramair1x1]

For those of you who get sides from betablockers that often happens if they are lipophillic and cross BBB. Try atenolol or nebivolol. Atenolol has better HR control but can mess with lipids a bit. Nebi can increase NO which is nice.

I've been on atenolol for 18 years initially 25mg daily and now as of 7 years ago 50mg daily and my lipids are fine. I thought for sure by now I would be on a different beta-blocker for HBP and SVT (supraventricular tachycardia) due to my body adjusting to atenolol and not the case.

Everyone is different and reacts different to certain meds. For me I haven't had an SVT attack in 10 years and my BP is usually around 130/85.

My advice Nothuman would be to either stop the GH ASAP of get back on Metoprolol and monitor your BP/HR with a monitor daily and see after 2 weeks what your numbers look like. Best of luck brother!

 

[Smack]

I have been tracking my heart rate on and off gh for the past year and it increased dramatically when on, I ve now found 1.5 iu five mornings per week gives me a decent gh effect but my resting heart rate is staying around 50, I am going to try completely off for a month to see if I can keep it in the 40's

Ugh... I have just under 1 kit of black top Rips left that I want to just use up but I think this is the better idea

 

[nothuman]

I have been tracking my heart rate on and off gh for the past year and it increased dramatically when on, I ve now found 1.5 iu five mornings per week gives me a decent gh effect but my resting heart rate is staying around 50, I am going to try completely off for a month to see if I can keep it in the 40's

Wtf? You're not happy when it's in the 50s? Must be a nice problem to have. I was thrilled when mine was 60 this morning.

 

[lntense]

This thread just made me realize I really miss beta blockers...


I could give speeches and presentations and be chill as a cucumber. Sorry, that's a little off topic.

But maybe give a low dose beta blocker a try if you're really wanting to stay on the GH or just stay away from that stuff unless you can get the good kind.

 

[finephysique]

Wtf? You're not happy when it's in the 50s? Must be a nice problem to have. I was thrilled when mine was 60 this morning.

It was up to the 70's when on 3 iu of gh got into the 60s on 2.5 50s on 2 and down to about 50 on 1.5 but I want to see just how low it can get with no gh in my system for a while.

You know bodybuilders, when are we ever happy with what we achieve?

 

[G.I.Bro]

RHR back down to low 60s this morning after stopping it. I think it's safe to say that was definitely the cause

What's your hypothesis on MOA? I mean if it were just water retention, that would not be unique to black tops and would be shared by any GH. Do you feel you bloat more on blacks or any other differences? Do you think its a special binder or something unique to black (meditrope) production?

I'm alternating Karl's oranges and black/meditrope from TP and cant tell a difference. But I'm also a guy who could run 4-5iu of 100% legit Norditropin and never once feel numbness or anything in my hands like SO MANY seem to report and use as an indicator of quality.

My BP is fine but I never pay attention to HR. This thread makes me want to check it tonight.

 

[Smack]

What's your hypothesis on MOA? I mean if it were just water retention, that would not be unique to black tops and would be shared by any GH. Do you feel you bloat more on blacks or any other differences? Do you think its a special binder or something unique to black (meditrope) production?

I'm alternating Karl's oranges and black/meditrope from TP and cant tell a difference. But I'm also a guy who could run 4-5iu of 100% legit Norditropin and never once feel numbness or anything in my hands like SO MANY seem to report and use as an indicator of quality.

My BP is fine but I never pay attention to HR. This thread makes me want to check it tonight.

Only GH I've ever used are TP black tops and the first time I ever took them, 3iu pre workout, I noticed my heart was pounding while getting warmed up much more than usual... Unfortunately I havent tried any other brands of GH

I'll say peptides and MK have never had this effect on me... Maybe could it be the particular isomer that is artificial gh?

 

[nothuman]

Update

My RHR was just 58bpm. It literally goes up by 20 on 2-2.5iu hgh. Insanity