The drug(s) most responsible for killing bodybuilders

[Flocci]

th

What i meant was you can definitely overdose on ephedrine. Hense the word "irresponsible" in there. Ive ran cycles of DNP over thr course of 3 years, that does not mean the shit ain't deadly af.

the poison is in the dose

 

[neutrino]

th

the poison is in the dose

Indeed. Maybe I didn't word it correctly.

My whole point is there are certain drugs used in BB that are acutely deadly. They kill you fast if used incorrectly.

 

[Gaintrain]

Indeed. Maybe I didn't word it correctly.

My whole point is there are certain drugs used in BB that are acutely deadly. They kill you fast if used incorrectly.

this! certain drugs used improperly and or combined with other non bbing drugs in excess is deadly....

 

[Sectør]

Guys should be careful using GLP1s like Sema/Tirz. They are now being linked with suicidal ideations.

lol what? Do you have studies that support this? Or just based off your own ideations you mean?

 

[abt10]

lol what? Do you have studies that support this? Or just based off your own ideations you mean?

I have bouts of depression/anxiety, but not suicide.
But in reading other forums and from google searches, it does seem to be a common side effect.

 

[Sectør]

I have bouts of depression/anxiety, but not suicide.
But in reading other forums and from google searches, it does seem to be a common side effect.

Oo ok I was just curious if there was maybe some other data I wasn’t aware of. Most the studies I’ve seen have shown the opposite that it improves mood and reduces dopamine cravings and can even reduce inflammation in the brain which can decrease depression in some as well as receptors in the amygdala area of the brain which is prominent with anxiety

So when you said they actually increase suicidal ideations—that’s why I was curious

• GLP-1 receptors are found not just in the pancreas and gut, but also in the brain — especially in areas that regulate food intake, reward, emotion, and learning.
• Key brain regions with GLP-1 receptors include:
  • Hypothalamus: Controls hunger, satiety, and energy balance.
  • Nucleus accumbens: Core part of the brain’s reward circuit — linked to cravings and addiction-like eating.
  • Ventral tegmental area (VTA): Also part of the dopamine reward pathway.
  • Amygdala: Related to fear, stress, and emotion.
  • Hippocampus & cortex: Involved in memory and cognition.

 

[Samson250]

Strippers and Vegas Escort’s man.. (smh)
There just isn’t a cure for this epidemic.

 

[Ateam2024]

if you take to

Indeed. Maybe I didn't word it correctly.

My whole point is there are certain drugs used in BB that are acutely deadly. They kill you fast if used incorrectly.

many aspirin its deadly, Just like alot of stuff , "can kill you",,

 

[Fleezy]

• GLP-1 receptors are found not just in the pancreas and gut, but also in the brain — especially in areas that regulate food intake, reward, emotion, and learning.
• Key brain regions with GLP-1 receptors include:
  • Hypothalamus: Controls hunger, satiety, and energy balance.
  • Nucleus accumbens: Core part of the brain’s reward circuit — linked to cravings and addiction-like eating.
  • Ventral tegmental area (VTA): Also part of the dopamine reward pathway.
  • Amygdala: Related to fear, stress, and emotion.
  • Hippocampus & cortex: Involved in memory and cognition.

watch these Glp-1's end up making everyone retarded lmao

 

[Josefein421]

watch these Glp-1's end up making everyone retarded lmao

Too late.

 

[neutrino]

if you take to

many aspirin its deadly, Just like alot of stuff , "can kill you",,

Correct. And so is heroin...but that is off topic. We are talking about drugs killing bodybuilders, not about all things in life you can possibly cross paths with that are deadly. Name a bodybuilder that has died of acute aspirin overdose?

 

[Jefe]

Strippers and Vegas Escort’s man.. (smh)
There just isn’t a cure for this epidemic.

But if something is going to kill me prematurely, I choose this

 

[qbkilla]

Too late.

 

[Samson250]

But if something is going to kill me prematurely, I choose this

A fellow addict I see.. Yes of course we choose this! With a Sicilian bitch with long hair and coconut derrière riding lil’ Samson250 Jr. into the afterlife. Absolutely. Lol

 

[claymore]

I’d say pain meds, diuretics, heavy orals, alcohol, and about every other recreational drug that most all of them use… Anabolics wouid be my last choice on what’s giving the majority of them health problems.

 

[nemesis66]

Personally, I don't think steroids or HGH are that dangerous.
Let's take a few examples from the pros, like Ronnie Coleman, who I think is the most impressive bodybuilder of all time. Apart from joint problems due to extreme weights, he hasn't had any other health issues that I know of.
Look at Jay Cutler, Phil Heath, Lee Haney, Dorian Yates, to name a few, they all seem to be doing well.
Tom Prince almost died from... ibuprofen! Even though he was taking huge doses of steroids, HGH, insulin...
Milo Sarcev, who abused steroids and cocaine quite a bit, was really going at it! He looks pretty good to me.
I personally knew an IFBB pro here in France, he was huge, 5'7" and 290 lbs.
He took between 3 and 4 grams of testosterone per week, 20iu of HGH per day, and insulin several times a day. Plus everything else that I don't know about.
What I also know is that he spent $6,000 a month on products, including dietary supplements, which gives you an idea of what he was putting into his body!
He's a doctor and earns over $20,000 a month. And he never had any blood tests. Today he's 50 years old and in good health. He hasn't had any problems as far as I know.
However, he did 1 hour of cardio a day and 2 hours in preparation for competitions.
No cigarettes, no alcohol, and no drugs like cocaine...
I also think that genetics play a big role. Some people are in great health, while others are very fragile.
You also need a bit of luck.
I also forgot to mention that diets, whether for weight gain or weight loss, are also very hard on the body.
With all that said, there are certainly quite a few bodybuilders who die, but there are also quite a few who are in very good health today.

 

[dieselbuilder]

I also think that genetics play a big role. Some people are in great health, while others are very fragile.
You also need a bit of luck.

yes. That’s all

 

[Sectør]

Personally, I don't think steroids or HGH are that dangerous.
Let's take a few examples from the pros, like Ronnie Coleman, who I think is the most impressive bodybuilder of all time. Apart from joint problems due to extreme weights, he hasn't had any other health issues that I know of.
Look at Jay Cutler, Phil Heath, Lee Haney, Dorian Yates, to name a few, they all seem to be doing well.
Tom Prince almost died from... ibuprofen! Even though he was taking huge doses of steroids, HGH, insulin...
Milo Sarcev, who abused steroids and cocaine quite a bit, was really going at it! He looks pretty good to me.
I personally knew an IFBB pro here in France, he was huge, 5'7" and 290 lbs.
He took between 3 and 4 grams of testosterone per week, 20iu of HGH per day, and insulin several times a day. Plus everything else that I don't know about.
What I also know is that he spent $6,000 a month on products, including dietary supplements, which gives you an idea of what he was putting into his body!
He's a doctor and earns over $20,000 a month. And he never had any blood tests. Today he's 50 years old and in good health. He hasn't had any problems as far as I know.
However, he did 1 hour of cardio a day and 2 hours in preparation for competitions.
No cigarettes, no alcohol, and no drugs like cocaine...
I also think that genetics play a big role. Some people are in great health, while others are very fragile.
You also need a bit of luck.
I also forgot to mention that diets, whether for weight gain or weight loss, are also very hard on the body.
With all that said, there are certainly quite a few bodybuilders who die, but there are also quite a few who are in very good health today.

I mean for every example you’ve named, there’s probably 10x (or more) people that have died or had heart issues, especially with those dosages they were pushing. Some is genetics, some is luck

But let’s not be delusional in saying that gear is safe or that there’s no harm. We take precautions and try to minimize the risk, but there’s always risk. You either accept the risk and cycle, or you don’t and stay natty, or stick to actual TRT and HRT style doses.

 

[Sambo44]

Recent events got a few of us thinking, and a couple days ago it sort of hit me. I know in my own health history, what caused my heart issues was extreme doses of HGH. Yes I was also using steroids and stimulants and eating trash, but the issue was directly correlated and caused by the GH. And when we look back at the deaths of guys, we’ve seen recently a guy who appears to have been using extreme doses of GH as well, and guys like Dallas MacArver whose autopsy apparently showed an insanely large heart. While all the other drugs cause problems, it seems to me that very high doses of GH is likely the most potent killer.

I’m gonna have to go with loop diuretics like Lasix on this one ,very dangerous drugs , however ,I will never touch cytomel t3 , dnp or clenbutorol either , all to dangerous in my opinion , now insulin I’m not afraid at all , you would have to be a complete moron to make a big mistake using insulin and kill yourself in my opinion anyway , trust me ,when you go hypo you will know your going hypo , tingling fingers , start sweating profusely , hands shaking and a insane hunger drive , so your body is screaming at you ,We Need carbs asap lol