The Perfect Cycle

[seungmena]

This is a question for the advanced guys out there.

Its 8 months from your intended contest you need to drop 50lbs of fat and out on about 20lbs of muscle.

If money was no object what would you do in terms of supplementation - when and for how long. Assume an advanced trainer with great genetics.



S

 

[Big A]

The same gear if I would have 20lbs to lose.

Normal off season gear until 4 weeks out. 4 weeks out switch to prop, tren, masteron, stana/primo. One week out switch the prop for susp and add halo.

Use clen, eca, T3 and GH from day one of starting the diet.

 

[Steak Helmet]

I think that tells just about everything one would want to know before contest time...as far as synthetics to use...diet is a different story.

 

[Old Qua.]

Big A:
why are you shiftin to propionate, and then agen to suspention??
I thort test was test.
Is it becurse you want to go off gear after the contest?
Or is it becurse you belive that you hold more water on the longer acting esters?
I'm not in dought off you'r knowles, just seaking some anseres, corse I don''t understandt

 

[bigheinz]

WhaT is eca?

 

[Ivan]

:O)))

WhaT is eca?

E = Ephedrine
C = Caffiene
A = Aspirin

 

[Old Qua.]

ECA = Efedrin + cofein + asperin

 

[xcelbeyond]

why are you shiftin to propionate, and then agen to suspention??
I thort test was test.
Is it becurse you want to go off gear after the contest?
Or is it becurse you belive that you hold more water on the longer acting esters?
I'm not in dought off you'r knowles, just seaking some anseres, corse I don''t understandt

I'm relatively positive that he suggests this for the reason that short/no ester test creates very little (if any) bloat. I like to use it all the time!

You actually get "more" test with no ester as the longer the ester takes more space (mg) up. Read this post as it explains this better: http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1173

xcel

 

[Big A]

Switching the test esters closer to the comp makes sure you can control water better. By the time you stop the suspension 2 days out from the show, you won't have any water left.

eca is ephedrine, caffeine, aspirin (syntheburn).

 

[2B_Big]

BIG A, what does "normal off-season gear" consist of?

 

[Big A]

BIG A, what does "normal off-season gear" consist of?

test en, test cyp, sus, deca, eq, d-bol, a-50, etc.

 

[seungmena]

Thanks for that Big A
Confirms what I was thinking.
My question is, if I was to run ECA for the full 12 week run in, with Clen on 2 weeks on 2 weeks off through that, how would you run the T3,
I have heard quite a few theories on this. I last ran T3 with 2 weeks at 50mcg and a taper halfing each week until it was 6mcg and then off,
I cant say that the effect was as dramatic as I had been led to expect, but my metabolic rate seems to have stayed elevated since, but not that much.
Would you run the T3 without the GH ?
And finally - my usual off season is d'bol (40mg ed) and deca (250pw) only, switch from these at 4 weeks and go to an every day dose of suspension ?
halo? (new one to me that)

S

 

[Big A]

Thanks for that Big A
Confirms what I was thinking.
My question is, if I was to run ECA for the full 12 week run in, with Clen on 2 weeks on 2 weeks off through that, how would you run the T3,
I have heard quite a few theories on this. I last ran T3 with 2 weeks at 50mcg and a taper halfing each week until it was 6mcg and then off,
I cant say that the effect was as dramatic as I had been led to expect, but my metabolic rate seems to have stayed elevated since, but not that much.
Would you run the T3 without the GH ?
And finally - my usual off season is d'bol (40mg ed) and deca (250pw) only, switch from these at 4 weeks and go to an every day dose of suspension ?
halo? (new one to me that)

S

Read the Getting ready for competition thread in the Articles forum. It answers your questions.
Halo is Halotestin.

 

[seungmena]

I read that article Big A which is what got mewondering about the T3.
I dont understand why exogenous T3 over a long period wouldnot shut down endogenous T3 production, although can see why it wouldnt shut down T4.
Does T3 shut down but this not matter because endogenous production is so low as to be of very little effect?
Secondly T3 is very catabolic and I need to maintain as much muscle as possible.
Now If I dose for my bodyweight of 315 that is 14 tabs a day for 12 weeks which seems a huge amount to be taking, especially without some GH(which is the likely way I will be doing it)

S