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Hey guys, theres something on my mind that ive been wondering about for a good while.
When I first used tren i went with low test (200mg), started tren ace at 350mg a week and went up to 500mg a week for a long period.
During this time I gained a good amount of muscle (because I bulked hard), but never noticed any fat burning effect whatsoever, only heavier sweating during the first 2-3 weeks. Had bad side effects on the psyche to be honest, heavy mood swings and so on and an overall not so well feeling.
Well, later on I decided to try a higher amount of test (currently 500mg test/week) with a smaller amount of tren (350mg/wk). I dont get any side effects apart from night sweats (which dont really bother me) and a bit worse sleep. My mood is way better and more stable, I just feel "good", even though I usually feel like crap while dieting.
The thing I noticed though is that I can see daily changes in the mirror with 500 test 350 tren, I rip up way faster than normally. When i was using higher tren low test I did not notice anything like that at all. Plus tren higher than 350mg gives me an insane appetite.
My question is:
Is the thermogenic effect of tren more pronounced when you use high test with it? Or does tren need estrogen to work well? (ausbuilt from ukmuscle has some interesting theories on that, saying that tren works best with high estrogen to upregulate the progesterone receptors).
When I first used tren i went with low test (200mg), started tren ace at 350mg a week and went up to 500mg a week for a long period.
During this time I gained a good amount of muscle (because I bulked hard), but never noticed any fat burning effect whatsoever, only heavier sweating during the first 2-3 weeks. Had bad side effects on the psyche to be honest, heavy mood swings and so on and an overall not so well feeling.
Well, later on I decided to try a higher amount of test (currently 500mg test/week) with a smaller amount of tren (350mg/wk). I dont get any side effects apart from night sweats (which dont really bother me) and a bit worse sleep. My mood is way better and more stable, I just feel "good", even though I usually feel like crap while dieting.
The thing I noticed though is that I can see daily changes in the mirror with 500 test 350 tren, I rip up way faster than normally. When i was using higher tren low test I did not notice anything like that at all. Plus tren higher than 350mg gives me an insane appetite.
My question is:
Is the thermogenic effect of tren more pronounced when you use high test with it? Or does tren need estrogen to work well? (ausbuilt from ukmuscle has some interesting theories on that, saying that tren works best with high estrogen to upregulate the progesterone receptors).