These IGF Side effects normal?

[KARIUS]

Hi folks,
1st time on IGF. I'm finding the sides quite something.

Dose: 40mcg per day EOD pre-workout
Receptor Grade

Experiencing:

- Swelling of extremities; wrists/ankles accompanied by what I can describe as a 'tingling' feeling 2hrs post injection which is on going for 1-2 days.
With joint pain in hands.

- Dizziness/ headaches
- Severe hunger, constantly! With slight nausea b/cos of being so hungry!
- mood changes.


Thanks guys,
K.

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[Everest]

sounds like HGH side effects. are you sure about the peptide?

 

[door]

Maybe its insulin.

 

[tap]

Hi folks,
1st time on IGF. I'm finding the sides quite something.

Dose: 40mcg per day EOD pre-workout
Receptor Grade

Experiencing:

- Swelling of extremities; wrists/ankles accompanied by what I can describe as a 'tingling' feeling 2hrs post injection which is on going for 1-2 days.
With joint pain in hands.

- Dizziness/ headaches
- Severe hunger, constantly! With slight nausea b/cos of being so hungry!
- mood changes.


Thanks guys,
K.

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I get the same sides with igf. Ive been on growth for 2 years and every time i run igf with it feels like ive tripled my growth dosage.I just up my protein and carbs .

 

[Fa Seeshus]

try switching to a postworkout shot and consume most of your daily carbs in the few hours post-workout. this will take care of most of the blood sugar issues.

igf will work at a lower dose for some. i actually use just 10mcg postworkout. even that amount will have an effect.

 

[STEEDA69]

try switching to a postworkout shot and consume most of your daily carbs in the few hours post-workout. this will take care of most of the blood sugar issues.

igf will work at a lower dose for some. i actually use just 10mcg postworkout. even that amount will have an effect.

YES to both points!

I see that you are taking RECEPTOR grade IGF @ 40 mcg, if the 3:1 theory is correct (it is close anyway), that's equivalent to 120 mcg of Media grade!

That's a bit high, Especially if it's your first time! You REALLY should have started off with Media grade anyway.

JD~

 

[KARIUS]

Thanks for your inputs here guys.

The peptide is IGF from a reputable supplier.
I'm not new to the BB scene and gear use but this is the 1st time I've felt so uncomfortable with the side effects of a product!

I'm considering dropping to 20mcg or even less to try and loose most of these sides I'm having.

If that doesn't work then I will have to drop it completely.


Thanks,
K.

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[edge250]

karius?? thee karius???? are you, ya know, karius from outlaw??

 

[maxsupplements]

hell bro..

if you cant handle it, send it this way, i would LOVE to finish it..

im currently running 20mcg of media grade ED in the morning. trying something different.

i have run edge250 & gavins protocols, and they are good, but time wise, this is about all i can do. so i am trying it for 6 weeks. we will see what happens. im seeing some serious vascularity, and some nice fat burning effects a bit. 10 days on so far.

dude, try upping your carb intake, and also, make most of them post injection. which would also be post workout. so, you can stabalize your blood sugar levels a little better. good luck/.

 

[KARIUS]

if you cant handle it, send it this way, i would LOVE to finish it..

lol - I'm generous, though not that generous

Ok, dropping to 10mcg and will up the carbs post WO, thats gonna' be a heck of a lotta' carbs, see how it goes...

karius?? thee karius???? are you, ya know, karius from outlaw??

Guilty as charged my friend!



K.

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[jayuk]

karius?? thee karius???? are you, ya know, karius from outlaw??

he is!

I informally invited him to post here.....hope thats ok!

J

 

[STEEDA69]

he is!

I informally invited him to post here.....hope thats ok!

J

Thought I recognized the name! Good to see you over here KM.

SUP Jay UK????

JD~

 

[KARIUS]

Thanks Jay for showing me this board, great to be here!

...time to eat! (again)


K.

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[pimpofny]

hey i get the same things ....your body will adjust to it very fast ...if you want to minimize the sides just ramp up dosage untill yuou reach your desired dose....also eat some simple carb when not feeling well and it should cure it ...and just eat more in general ....it does make you moody a little also

i break up my dosages up throught the day this way you can do more and not get sides ....i do 25 or 30 mcg 2x or 3 x or 4 x per day for 2 days on and 2 days off regardless of weather training or not .....this a method ive read about and tested and it works great ....way better than pwo ,,

 

[slowpain]

wouldnt it be true that you would need extra carbs all day if you were going hypo from the IGF-1, i mean once its in the receptor it is active for a few days so you are constintly getting hypo when yoiu dont eat carbs because all the IGF-1 is pulling it out of the blood stream, cause theres a insulin receptor on the muscle cell and theres a IGF-1 receptor on the muscle cells.
All I can say is I have to eat some carbs every few hours sense I started taking high doses of HGH and slin after my workouts. It works the same I think as far as filling all the receptors with IGF-1, cause my hands and feet are swolen like crazy the day after I take the HGH and slin.

 

[wucrew420]

glad to see you over here karius. a good bro here. known and respected by many

 

[MAINEVENT]

Welcome Karius.....i only know you by searching the board. But from what i hear, its all good.

BTW, be careful with that igf or your cranium will get as big as EDGE250's if your not careful.

 

[wucrew420]

i just started some IGF i will post if i have any of the sides

 

[Fa Seeshus]

"wouldnt it be true that you would need extra carbs all day if you were going hypo from the IGF-1, i mean once its in the receptor it is active for a few days so you are constintly getting hypo when yoiu dont eat carbs because all the IGF-1 is pulling it out of the blood stream, cause theres a insulin receptor on the muscle cell and theres a IGF-1 receptor on the muscle cells.
All I can say is I have to eat some carbs every few hours sense I started taking high doses of HGH and slin after my workouts. It works the same I think as far as filling all the receptors with IGF-1, cause my hands and feet are swolen like crazy the day after I take the HGH and slin."


i know what your saying. the rational for taking in alot of simple carbs after the shot is to take advantage of the postworkout window when the muscles are primed to absorb them. you may need steady carb intake at other periods, but this can be accomplished by smaller amounts of low glycemic carbs.

 

[LMR]

Hey Karius! i was thinking the same thing if this was the Karius from Outlaw. good to see you on the board bro. long time no talk. hit me up sometime in pm's.