They always say you can't build mass in pre contest..true?

[mchief101]

just wondering, especially if your on say test E and tren, is it still possible to at least put on a bit of mass? what's your opinion and ways of dieting and still gaining ?
just wondering as i am prepping for my first comp atm,

 

[ROCKEDUP]

just wondering, especially if your on say test E and tren, is it still possible to at least put on a bit of mass? what's your opinion and ways of dieting and still gaining ?
just wondering as i am prepping for my first comp atm,

I'd say yes. I don't have experience with this, but I don't see why you couldn't. The kicker would be drugs.....I think you'd have to be giving your body sufficient amounts HIGHER than what your used to....a blast if you will. Again, this is just speculation.

 

[jay_dub]

Fuck yes you can.

Its called drugs, lots and lots of drugs.

Obviously you need to focus on diet and training 100% as well, but without ramping up dosages big time leading into a show you aren't going to be building any new muscle.

Edit: Rockedup beat me to it.

 

[Gunsmith]

yes , its perfectly plausable to drop body fat and gain mass.

Just because your in a calorie defecit doesnt mean you have to be in a nutrient defecit!!

Even without real high dose drugs just moderate HGH.

dont you think that if 100% clean you stand at say 200lbs 10% bodyfat eating clean 3000 cals , that by adding say 800mg test 300mg mast and 300mg tren a week and 4iu HGH am and pm that you would gain some muscle and reduce bodyfat?

 

[Queefer]

Fuck yes you can. Its called drugs, lots and lots of drugs. Obviously you need to focus on diet and training 100% as well, but without ramping up dosages big time leading into a show you aren't going to be building any new muscle. Edit: Rockedup beat me to it.

Double fuck yeah you can. And if you don't try you will lose alot of muscle too.

 

[mchief101]

currently 12 weeks out and i plan on bumping up that test at 750mg/week and adding tren 8 weeks out EOD. btw what routine you guys use in pre contest?

 

[ROCKEDUP]

Fuck yes you can.

Its called drugs, lots and lots of drugs.

Obviously you need to focus on diet and training 100% as well, but without ramping up dosages big time leading into a show you aren't going to be building any new muscle.

Edit: Rockedup beat me to it.

LMAO I said it first but definetly not best lol. Plus you are speaking from experience so you win bro.

 

[bmcjames]

I am

the strongest I have ever been right now while eating much MUCH less.

Squat 455x1 today (well a reverse band squat so 365lbs on the bottom position) but that was to a 12" tall milk crate and 12" is like mid shin to me so a solid 6" or so below parallel.

Hell close grip bench has gone up 40lbs in 3 weeks =)

 

[-b-]

Yes.. Some people uae offseason to get healthy and clean out.. And do most bulking pre contest (see pulcinella)

 

[Medic08]

Who ever says that has obviously never heard of Kevin Levrone. He grew into shows his whole career.

 

[Researchstop]

Who ever says that has obviously never heard of Kevin Levrone. He grew into shows his whole career.

No normal human should ever be compared to Kevin Levrone. His superior gifted genes allows him to accomplish things the average joe could not.

How advanced you are in this game will play a factor. A new gym rat could easily gain muscle and lose fat, while someone much more advanced might not have that luxury. Calories are required to grow, not drugs. The drugs need the calories to accomplish their job.

 

[Medic08]

No normal human should ever be compared to Kevin Levrone. His superior gifted genes allows him to accomplish things the average joe could not.

How advanced you are in this game will play a factor. A new gym rat could easily gain muscle and lose fat, while someone much more advanced might not have that luxury. Calories are required to grow, not drugs. The drugs need the calories to accomplish their job.

So tired of hearing people say that. Sure he's got great genes, but people make it seem like he's the ONLY person that can pull it off..... Im sure people use to say that no one would accomplish what Arnold did, or Haney, or Coleman. Get the point? The OP asked a question and I gave an example that YES it can be done. I didn't see where it said "can anyone but Levrone do this". Yes, the man looked amazing when he competed, but how many O's did he win? Exactly.....

 

[Gunsmith]

Calories are required to grow, not drugs. The drugs need the calories to accomplish their job.

WRONG !! calories have little to do with it , its the proper nutrients. If you eat 4000 calories a day of ice cream or peanutbutter do you thinkink you will grow any muscle??
FUCK NO
thats like saying carbs are esential for muscle growth , they certainly help but are not needed.

As for Levrone , it was explained to me that he had such massive "growth" into his shows because he was totaly off in the off season then hit the gear when prepping.

If you can reach a stage weight of 250 pounds at an honest 4-5% by using 2000mg test , 1000mg tren a week and 10 iu HGH a day , then you come off completly you WILL without a doubt shrink back down , but 6 months after being clean you hit it again and just right back to that dose your body will rebound pretty fast.

X amount of hormone supports Y ammount of muscle.

 

[letz]

Ofc you can, loads of tren and hgh will make u grow no matter what

 

[ajpt]

You always hear Hany saying that he gets his athletes to "grow into the show". THis is what that means Im assuming. Look at a guy like Levrone who wouldn't train all year and lose size...then when he started training for the "o" and using lots of drugs, he would shed fat and gain muscle simultaneously...Levrone might not be the best example because he is a genetic freak, but to a lesser degree the average BB could do it.

 

[dragonfire101]

Yes if your just cruising most of the year and then try to grow into a show with a cycle.

 

[Researchstop]

WRONG !! calories have little to do with it , its the proper nutrients. If you eat 4000 calories a day of ice cream or peanutbutter do you thinkink you will grow any muscle??
FUCK NO
thats like saying carbs are esential for muscle growth , they certainly help but are not needed.

As for Levrone , it was explained to me that he had such massive "growth" into his shows because he was totaly off in the off season then hit the gear when prepping.

If you can reach a stage weight of 250 pounds at an honest 4-5% by using 2000mg test , 1000mg tren a week and 10 iu HGH a day , then you come off completly you WILL without a doubt shrink back down , but 6 months after being clean you hit it again and just right back to that dose your body will rebound pretty fast.

X amount of hormone supports Y ammount of muscle.

Maybe it's late and I am misreading this. Are you suggesting that calorie intake has little to do with weight gain?

 

[ricorico]

WRONG !! calories have little to do with it , its the proper nutrients. If you eat 4000 calories a day of ice cream or peanutbutter do you thinkink you will grow any muscle??
FUCK NO
thats like saying carbs are esential for muscle growth , they certainly help but are not needed.

As for Levrone , it was explained to me that he had such massive "growth" into his shows because he was totaly off in the off season then hit the gear when prepping.

If you can reach a stage weight of 250 pounds at an honest 4-5% by using 2000mg test , 1000mg tren a week and 10 iu HGH a day , then you come off completly you WILL without a doubt shrink back down , but 6 months after being clean you hit it again and just right back to that dose your body will rebound pretty fast.

X amount of hormone supports Y ammount of muscle.

Calories have little to do with it? You have to be fucking kidding me dude. Obviously you need sufficient protein. But to suggest calories have little to do with weight gain frankly is the most absurd thing I've read on the forums in I don't know how many years

 

[Bulked007]

Calories have little to do with it? You have to be fucking kidding me dude. Obviously you need sufficient protein. But to suggest calories have little to do with weight gain frankly is the most absurd thing I've read on the forums in I don't know how many years

+1

 

[thatbloke]

just double your trenbelone dose and ull know the anser