Thinking about going Ballz out???

Fullybuilt · Dec 17, 2004

Thinking about a 20weeker. My original cycle was gonna start in Feb.
weeks 1-14 Prop 600mg
weeks 1-6 Tren 75mg EOD
weeks 8-14 Anavar 40mg ED
Gh 4iu's 5on/2off for 6months(6weeks before this cycle and 4weeks into pct)

My plan was to diet down to around 190lbs by Feb so i'd be pretty lean to start this cycle(lean bulk). Im 218 now at around 13%. I don't think im gonna be able to get that lean in 6weeks while just being on GH and no AAS so im thinking about running prop at 100mg EOD and winny at 50mg ED and doing two t3/clen cycles to get leaner faster. I know 2lbs a week is the way to go but remember im holding lots of water now. I just completed pct Nov 1st so i've only been off my 2nd cycle for 3months and it was a 14week cycle. I feel recovered though. You guys think 20weeks is too much. This is gonna be my 3rd cycle. Maybe I should run HCG at 500iu a week the whole way through or do a few mid cycle HCG cycles?

Armageddon · Dec 17, 2004

Why can't you get lean over a 6week period with no gear? I've seen people and myself do it. Come on just put your mind to it and go for it and then when your ready throw your plan into affect.

BigBoyJ · Dec 17, 2004

I personally can't get lean without gear. I mean I can do it, but I lose all my muscle along with the fat, no matter how high I keep the protien. Cardio alone strips muscle off of me even ON gear, so without juice I turn to a stick.

Fullybuilt, I don't think 20 weeks is too long at all. Hell, that's a normal cycle for me. Your doses are modest, so I don't see why you'd have any trouble.

Crowler · Dec 17, 2004

You might want to see Big A's post here about GH

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?p=93093#post93093

mike ross · Dec 17, 2004

thats a vague post and not really true...if you are eating above maintenance cals you will put on fat no matter what you are on...albeit maybe not alot of fat, but you will put some on.

Crowler · Dec 17, 2004

mike ross said:
thats a vague post and not really true...if you are eating above maintenance cals you will put on fat no matter what you are on...albeit maybe not alot of fat, but you will put some on.

What are you saying is not true?

mike ross · Dec 17, 2004

"gear + GH for 4 weeks. During those 4 weeks I lose the water and fat that I added during the previous 4 weeks on the insulin."

this quote is not entirely true...makes no mention of cals, etc. again vague at best

Crowler · Dec 18, 2004

mike ross said:
"gear + GH for 4 weeks. During those 4 weeks I lose the water and fat that I added during the previous 4 weeks on the insulin."

this quote is not entirely true...makes no mention of cals, etc. again vague at best

What so now we need to give a detailed report of calories etc with every post or it is going to be considered vague and not entirely true

mike ross · Dec 18, 2004

bro, your taking this way too seriously...the guy was asking for advice. advice to me is not being quoted in that post. its an account of one's own response to how he his...as we know everyone is not big a...sorry my opinoin...relax