I would have enjoyed hearing from him.The point was simply 'hey i am hearing this guy is clean....pretty good build and accomplishment if he is....more power to him"
And then everyones ego got involved.
I doubt the USA has a top secret doping program. Nothing state sponsored anyway. The athletes who can afford to have a victor Conte in their corner who can concoct drugs to mask other drug use might employ one but there's lots of risk involved and I'm not so sure it still happens. I mean, it would be obvious you'd have 30 athletes around the world all within a micro nut hair between them where any one could win a gold medal on a given day and then these three guys who are so much better it would be obvious. Not to mention retiring athletes would be selling stories for cash and that sort of thing. Most likely anyway.But China and Russia are poorer countries and with less tradition in sports than the US since they have come later to meet the basic needs of the population. When you are miserable you cannot think of pleasant activities or leisure, such as sports.
By the way, the US has more soldiers than any other country, so I would say that patriotism is very strong.
And just look at the facts, who wins the most medals? Do you really think that the US does not have a state doping program? Don't they have federal agencies that operate under state secrecy?
The biggest guys at my gym (besides me) all claim to be physique competitors. They are all in their 40s and are at least 240lbs each LEAN. One dude has striations in his rear delts and this is normal every day shape for him. Months now he's basically stayed in that kind of shape. They train hard but never legs...all say the same thing why work harder than you need to the physique guys get more exposure anyway etc.None are close to exceptional specimens. You have to remember that the vast majority of competitors in the natural divisions are only competing there because they can't make it in the proper shows.
I have literally seen with my own eyes a dude who just stayed contest shape year round never worked out had never been to a gym he actually got annoyed when people would ask him. He was short 5ft5 or 5ft6 5% year round eating crap. Veins in his abs 5%.No because i have trained some genetic freakazoids in which i saw what was accomplished. Those situations have shown me that certain people in bodybuilding can go pretty darn far on genetics alone. I really dont give a crap what you think. You think because you cant do it others cant either. Like I said before you and others would be calling out guys like Coleman, Heath, Henry, Greene as "f*(king liars" when they were natural.....and you would be 100% dead wrong. See i dont get worked up like this like you guys do just because some guys are genetically gifted for bodybuilding. I realize Jim Carrey cannot look like Michael Clarke Duncan no matter how much he would abuse himself. I swear some of you guys think you would be chasing down Usain Bolt in the 100 if you just took enough sauce. Some guys have it, the majority dont. There is nothing a natural guy can do nowadays to protect himself and prove himself to juicers...NOTHING. The old: "Well unless you are with someone for 24 hours a day how do you know......whatever...." Why dont you do this if it upsets you so much? Why dont you contact that guy and say to him "My 10k against your 10k" ... full WADA drug test within the next 72 hours, winner takes all. I bet any money he will take you up on that. Sadly when i first posted I asked him if he would come over here and tell his story. He was excited to do so, and i think he signed up the next day and the day after that he pmed me and said "hey which post is it that I should comment on?".....I told him "dont even bother man....its not even worth it.....just leave it alone sorry to even mention it to you" after I saw all the turmoil....
No, the title of your post called out the majority of this board in a judgmental way. And you know that was your intention.....whether it was because you have a low opinion of members, did it to grab attention, or both, it's quite obvious that you title was inflammatory.The point was simply 'hey i am hearing this guy is clean....pretty good build and accomplishment if he is....more power to him"
And then everyones ego got involved.
You’re super high if you believe that’s a natty!This dude I watched him go from good looking guy who had I'm not exaggerating 20inch arms lean year round and his calves had to be bigger to freak bodybuilder. He wasn't into bodybuilding but over time everybody wore him down so he went for it here's a pic of him in 2012 Rick Figoni is his name. Genetics are everything no amount of drugs will make an average person look like Rick. He worked his ass off I will say that, but even if he had never lifted weights his arms rivaled most pro bodybuilders. It's hard not to get a little jealous but what can you do?
That's not SEO or synthol in his arms either. They always looked like that, he just had to train the rest of his body to catch up. Always lean this guy, super cool dude. He wasn't that short his big ass calves always made his legs look shorter than they were. Taller than nick walker.
And the "Best Reply" award goes to!! ^^^^I am not saying he is clean or not...No clue and don't care.
The point was simply 'hey i am hearing this guy is clean....pretty good build and accomplishment if he is....more power to him"
And then everyones ego got involved.
Rick no sir he was working with Hany right out of the gate. The other guy I mentioned he was but good lord he looked nothing like Rick.You’re super high if you believe that’s a natty!
The shorter the bodybuilder the easier it seems to be for them to build size HOWEVER it is pointless to sit around and argue over whether or not a dude is lifetime natty with only contest pics from one show to consider. I'd look at the person's progress over time and also the shape he is in off-season and compare because natty guys gain muscle slow but lose it fast thus I'd expect a slow progression and to see a guy close to contest shape year round. Nattys can't cut that fast they lose too much size so they have to grow while lean so contest prep isn't too crazy.I believe it, absolutely
This guy was the poster child for the natural Olympia, Meshack is a freak, and yes he is short as fuck, but damn look at the muscle he carries.
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Only hungry 4 attention kids claim mikes natty, 30 pounds up on arnold enough said.Did you see the pics of O'Hearn's nutsack? It looked empty lol. They posted Mike's nudes he uses to pick up young chicks on the net on another forum you know well. Come on man, Mike's been on a 30 year cycle. I almost refuse to believe anyone in bodybuilding believes Mike's baloney lol.
not to mention he's 40-50 lbs bigger than he was in the late 90's. so he's gained that amount of lean tissue in his 40s and 50s. how does that happen?Only hungry 4 attention kids claim mikes natty, 30 pounds up on arnold enough said.
not to mention he's 40-50 lbs bigger than he was in the late 90's. so he's gained that amount of lean tissue in his 40s and 50s. how does that happen?