this is what i got

[lilarnold]

i went ahead and decided to do the indiana state show which is 14 weeks away. i have sust, tren,clen, and possibly deca for the show. i'll be picking up some liquid arimidex shortly. any ideas on how too run this for the contest. i know exactly what i need to do eating, and training wise as i have competed naturally and know what works for me when it comes to that but im new with the gear..

please help
thanks
lilarnie

 

[nosmas]

Welcome to the board Lil Arnold. While your waiting for replys, do some searching in the search function.

 

[lilarnold]

thats what im doin thanks

id still like an answer though while im searching if anyone has the time. i posted it in the begginner section too cuz i didnt read the before youpost thread......ya know before i posted..lol

 

[nosmas]

Its cool. Youll get some help for sure. Thats what were about. Im not going to offer up anything for ya because I have never preped for a contest. You will get some help though for sure. Be patient. I just wanted to say that your not being ignored or anything..and most of all, welcome aboard. And good luck to ya bro!

 

[lilarnold]

thanks brutha!

 

[thenatural3456]

Those are alot of compounds to be working with...

the only one i can really give you advice on is the clen...if you have a good diet and get your cardio in...it does work to cut fat...now with duration i like to run it 2 weeks on 1 week off...

 

[nosmas]

If your new to the gear......
I feel confident in telling you to save the deca. Among other reasons, its possible that you could retain more water than you would want for your contest. I would stick with your sust, no orals, and whatever therapys you need. I honestly think you would do great with just the sust. and nothing more. To get more help from the more experienced guys, post some pics. This way you give the board a better perspective on what you could do. This is never more true than in regards to contest prep. You gotta show um what you got. Clen is great stuff. Do research on the board on its best use. Same for the tren. I have experience with all the stuff you mentioned, but like I said, no contest prep. I have done my share of searches on the board though, that always does the most good.

 

[terryd5150]

You could use the Deca for contest prep if you wanted. I've done it myself, some things works for some people and not that well for others. It's one of things you'll just have to try to find out how well it works for you.


-BUT-

If you've never done steroids before then you have way too many compounds listed to be messing with for a first timer.

Try a Sustanon only cycle along with an excellent contest prep diet and training rountine and you should be very pleased with the results.

Stay away from Tren until you have a few cycles under your belt. If this is your first cycle you won't need anything that strong for a while.

Also, as a side note it would be a bad idea to mix Tren and Deca in the same cycle.

 

[nosmas]

Good advise Terry.
I would save the Tren/Deca for another cycle down the road. Wait and see how the Sust. effects you. In a first cycle, if something is not right, its to hard to fix with so many compounds. Sust. only will allow you to guage your situation. I honestly would skip the Clen this time around also...especially if you have not ever used it before. Its quite a shocker to the system.

 

[lilarnold]

i have done 2 cycles before

1. omnadren and tren
2. omnadren and deca

the tren cycle helped me harden up very very good, and i would say i ate moderately(6.5 on a scale of ten) clean

the deca cycle was my first one ever and i was was young. i put on around 30 lbs but i waqs bloated to all hell and drank like 3 times a week while taking it so the experience was bad and thats my fault. but i do think i held alot of water from the deca so i dont think i was gonna go with that anyway. i was just seein what others had to say because i do know a guy who used it precontest

this will be the second time i have dieted to get lean so now knowing what i need to do diet wise im sure things will work out alot better . i have the eye of the tiger and with the 2 other friends doin the show as well who have won they're weight classes in other shows and have 1 overall title i, at the very least would like to have an impressive showing!

 

[oldfella]

I would use the sust and deca. Since you are new keep sust to 250mg p/wk and deca 150-200 mg p/wk. My training partner is only useing 200mg cyp and 200mg deca p/wk. This guy (23) is getting freaky strong and growing like he's on a boat load. Which brings me to the point. As a newb or a vet, you do not need a ton of shit to grow. it all rests with your training and diet. Hell I'd be willing to bet with the right training and diet I could get another twenty pounds on you WITHOUT GEAR! I've been at this game for a while and I don't use crazy doses and five different compounds. It Is not needed!

 

[lilarnold]

this is what im gonna do i think any suggestions would be nice to hear.

weeks 12-8: sust 500mgs/wk,200mgs deca wk
weeks 8-show: 300mgs prop/wk, 100mgs tren every 3 days
weeks10-show: clen starting at 20mcgs 5 days on 2 days off goin up 20mcgs every other week till at 100mcgs
arimidex: .5mgs every other day

tell me what ya think