This is where bodybuilding has evolved

[AshopRep]

I think you made a statement with that pic. I don't expect anyone will call you out again. Looking very thick!

Sometimes I call people out too

 

[b-boy]

size wise? Wtf are you talking about? John is a heavy and bboy is a light heavy.

I was a heavyweight when I stood on stage with john at 2011 north americans. thank you very much. I got second place :naughty:

 

[b-boy]

like them or hate them here is the thing about guys like john and Shelby, they are constantly IMPROVING, I tend to stay the same, up a few pounds of muscle, down a few pounds of muscle. I can be a light heavy or heavy depending how I diet, but for the most part I remain pretty much the same. example of 2011 north americans, although john was shredded he is a totally different animal at the moment, he has packed on a shit load more muscle in those two years, I have pretty much remained the same, I just fine tune things here and there.

 

[desibaba]

like them or hate them here is the thing about guys like john and Shelby, they are constantly IMPROVING, I tend to stay the same, up a few pounds of muscle, down a few pounds of muscle. I can be a light heavy or heavy depending how I diet, but for the most part I remain pretty much the same. example of 2011 north americans, although john was shredded he is a totally different animal at the moment, he has packed on a shit load more muscle in those two years, I have pretty much remained the same, I just fine tune things here and there.

Would you share with us what your typical off season cycle is like?

 

[mslmn]

like them or hate them here is the thing about guys like john and Shelby, they are constantly IMPROVING, I tend to stay the same, up a few pounds of muscle, down a few pounds of muscle. I can be a light heavy or heavy depending how I diet, but for the most part I remain pretty much the same. example of 2011 north americans, although john was shredded he is a totally different animal at the moment, he has packed on a shit load more muscle in those two years, I have pretty much remained the same, I just fine tune things here and there.

Why is that? What do you think is the reason for this. In my case, I am consistently making improvements but nowhere near the rate as John or Shelby has in the last few yrs., which is impressive.

 

[sammy555]

Why is that? What do you think is the reason for this. In my case, I am consistently making improvements but nowhere near the rate as John or Shelby has in the last few yrs., which is impressive.

They're knowledge of nutrition and training is immense. I work with shelby now and I would have disagreed with his approach until I tried it and saw results. The guy is awesome. Love the way it's tiny tweaks here and there but they add up. If I had the money id hire John too for training but shelby is a keeper for sure. He's changed some of my basic believes in body composition diet and I wish I hired him years ago.

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[sammy555]

like them or hate them here is the thing about guys like john and Shelby, they are constantly IMPROVING, I tend to stay the same, up a few pounds of muscle, down a few pounds of muscle. I can be a light heavy or heavy depending how I diet, but for the most part I remain pretty much the same. example of 2011 north americans, although john was shredded he is a totally different animal at the moment, he has packed on a shit load more muscle in those two years, I have pretty much remained the same, I just fine tune things here and there.

To be fair your physique is pushing the limits already. Your one of those guys who looks a lot bigger than scale suggests but you always boots away inyour pics.competition so tight these days at a high level that's the problem. The human body will go so far and few will go as far as yours imo. Keep slugging man. You working with Phil now right?

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[275bills]

Would you share with us what your typical off season cycle is like?

Check out his huge thread

 

[b-boy]

To be fair your physique is pushing the limits already. Your one of those guys who looks a lot bigger than scale suggests but you always boots away inyour pics.competition so tight these days at a high level that's the problem. The human body will go so far and few will go as far as yours imo. Keep slugging man. You working with Phil now right?

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No I am not working with phil, he is always kind enough to give me his input and thoughts. Whenever he post anything on any board I read it and dissect it and learn from it. His knowledge of diet and training is crazy immense.

 

[sammy555]

No I am not working with phil, he is always kind enough to give me his input and thoughts. Whenever he post anything on any board I read it and dissect it and learn from it. His knowledge of diet and training is crazy immense.

Yea. Love his training articles/threads

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