Those over 40, what is your Ejection Fraction Rate and when should we worry?

[Killer.7]

for those of you with low or lowish EF you must do the "matt porter stack"

it works.

If I recall correctly.

high dose ubiquinol
high dose pycegenol
high dose taurine
beet root
d ribose

 

[Alzadosghost]

for those of you with low or lowish EF you must do the "matt porter stack"

it works.

If I recall correctly.

high dose ubiquinol
high dose pycegenol
high dose taurine
beet root
d ribose

If I had an issue with this I’d be seeking professional help. Matt porter died from heart failure I believe. Not who I’d be taking health advice from. I trained with him once in my hometown. Nice guy. But his breathing was as laborious. I remember that most from that day

 

[nothuman]

If I had an issue with this I’d be seeking professional help. Matt porter died from heart failure I believe. Not who I’d be taking health advice from. I trained with him once in my hometown. Nice guy. But his breathing was as laborious. I remember that most from that day

As true as I'm sure this is, the ingredients he listed have some beneficial HF evidence (with certainly no harm) and would be a slam dunk addition to professional help.

 

[Swifto]

I have heart failure. EF at 36%. I do moderate training now and cardio after. Then cardio only on other days.

I'm only comfortable interpreting the data and not suggesting what you do if you have/had heart failure.

I think it may be worth showing your cardiologist this study. He/she may have seen it as its from June 2019.

I interpret this data that one would be better doing resistance training and cardio (moderate-intensity continuous training (MICT)) after or before resistance training, not immediately before or after (during).

Morning MICT, then resistance training in the afternoon/evening.

 

[Alzadosghost]

As true as I'm sure this is, the ingredients he listed have some beneficial HF evidence (with certainly no harm) and would be a slam dunk addition to professional help.

I’m not doubting his protocol has merit but in addition to professional help. There’s only one cardiac specialist on this board as far as I know lol

 

[m87r]

I'm only comfortable interpreting the data and not suggesting what you do if you have/had heart failure.

I think it may be worth showing your cardiologist this study. He/she may have seen it as its from June 2019.

I interpret this data that one would be better doing resistance training and cardio (moderate-intensity continuous training (MICT)) after or before resistance training, not immediately before or after (during).

Morning MICT, then resistance training in the afternoon/evening.

I´ve read the study. Thanks for posting it.

 

[Golden]

I have heart failure. EF at 36%. I do moderate training now and cardio after. Then cardio only on other days.

Does EF at that level affect your daily life?

 

[m87r]

Does EF at that level affect your daily life?

No I don´t feel anything of the Ef at 36%.

 

[Killer.7]

If I had an issue with this I’d be seeking professional help. Matt porter died from heart failure I believe. Not who I’d be taking health advice from. I trained with him once in my hometown. Nice guy. But his breathing was as laborious. I remember that most from that day

This stack saved him. It was after this he went back on juice and everything got messed up again.

 

[Golden]

This stack saved him. It was after this he went back on juice and everything got messed up again.

That's the hard part for many in this lifestyle, we have a scare, change ways and get health back. This then sadly ends up for a lot having amnesia and going back to previous ways and boom, health is ruined or worse.

None of us are impervious to this, most of us live this as a lifestyle and it's a large part of who we are

 

[Alzadosghost]

This stack saved him. It was after this he went back on juice and everything got messed up again.

Well
It obviously didn’t save him then. Lol

 

[LK3]

That's the hard part for many in this lifestyle, we have a scare, change ways and get health back. This then sadly ends up for a lot having amnesia and going back to previous ways and boom, health is ruined or worse.

None of us are impervious to this, most of us live this as a lifestyle and it's a large part of who we are

this is no joke!
aas are about the hardest thing to give up that i have done and ive done everything. lol

 

[Killer.7]

Well
It obviously didn’t save him then. Lol

no it literally did. What did him in was his reversion to steroids and getting big.