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Sorry for the noob question guys.
I have never really taken Clenbuterol before, but I started this a few days ago at a "baby" dose of 20mg a day.
I'm in the midst of a moderate Test/Tren/Mast cycle trying to lose some fat and harden up. As soon as I added the Clen, it had me feeling like absolute death.
Now, I could already feel my endurance decline from the Tren in about week #2. I'm not sure why this happens, but Tren seems to make my breathing more difficult, especially after hard sets in the gym and during cardio. The Clen seems to compound this effect, to an almost scary level.
With the Clen, my heart rate went up, it felt like my BP increased, and my breathing became more laborious.
After hard sets in the gym, my heart was pounding, and I was struggling unusually to catch my breath... which feels like an uncomfortable and possibly dangerous scenario.
Is this normal?
I recall seeing all these T-shirt slogans like "Eat Clen, Tren hard!" Well... how the hell are you supposed to train hard on a bunch of Clen and Tren? It almost seems like it make training more difficult, so you have to scale back the intensity.
Am I a pussy, and need to suck it up?
Does it get better?
Is my cardio just sub-par?
Is there some crucial support supplement I am missing?
Experienced users please chime in. I have dropped the clen and feel way better already. This is disappointing, because I expected to be a performance-enhancer. (I thought it was fairly common for guys to run Tren and Clen together.)
I'm not big on fat loss supplements, but is there a good non-stim alternative?
I have never really taken Clenbuterol before, but I started this a few days ago at a "baby" dose of 20mg a day.
I'm in the midst of a moderate Test/Tren/Mast cycle trying to lose some fat and harden up. As soon as I added the Clen, it had me feeling like absolute death.
Now, I could already feel my endurance decline from the Tren in about week #2. I'm not sure why this happens, but Tren seems to make my breathing more difficult, especially after hard sets in the gym and during cardio. The Clen seems to compound this effect, to an almost scary level.
With the Clen, my heart rate went up, it felt like my BP increased, and my breathing became more laborious.
After hard sets in the gym, my heart was pounding, and I was struggling unusually to catch my breath... which feels like an uncomfortable and possibly dangerous scenario.
Is this normal?
I recall seeing all these T-shirt slogans like "Eat Clen, Tren hard!" Well... how the hell are you supposed to train hard on a bunch of Clen and Tren? It almost seems like it make training more difficult, so you have to scale back the intensity.
Am I a pussy, and need to suck it up?
Does it get better?
Is my cardio just sub-par?
Is there some crucial support supplement I am missing?
Experienced users please chime in. I have dropped the clen and feel way better already. This is disappointing, because I expected to be a performance-enhancer. (I thought it was fairly common for guys to run Tren and Clen together.)
I'm not big on fat loss supplements, but is there a good non-stim alternative?