Thoughts on steroid combo.

[ironmaster73]

Have not ran a cycle in over 2 years. Just been on trt 125mg/wk due to so medical issues that been dealing with last 18 months. Been training 30plus years and was actively competing in bb from the ages of 17-33 years old. Been thinking about trying my had at some major master's show. Holding a solid 102kg although bodyfat around 20% due to the issues I have had and unable to eat the best. At my best I could hold 100kg at 12% and diet that down to 87kg at sub 5%. Now 51 I find I do not need much to improve as all the years of training have built a great foundation. Want to know from other members their thoughts on my cycle lay out for getting back in shape. Goal is to get back to 100kg at sub 12% over the next 6 months and then looking at competing early next year. This is what I was thinking to start with.

test e 200mg/wk
primo 100mg/wk
mast e 100mg/wk
tren hex 100mg/wk
25mcg t3

Would like to run this in the first couple of months and adjust from here.

the reason for low dose primo is to help control e2 as 200mg of test raise my e2 to about twice the upper limit. Low mast to help test work better. low dose tren to help recomp with the t3.

 

[luki7788]

You don’t need that many compounds.

Why use so much if you’ve been on TRT for a long time and your body fat is still high?
Just increase test to 200–250 mg/week, and add 200mg either Masteron or Primo - not both.
There’s no real benefit from using both at the same time.

Instead of more gear, add a few IUs of GH and focus on fat loss.
With proper training and those doses especially at your age and training experience you’ll regain muscle while losing fat. Also you don’t need T3.
T3, T4, insulin we only use those when truly needed, and only after checking bloodwork. Taking something like 25 mg of T3 without real need is pointless.
It can actually make you feel worse, especially if you’re running T3 alone.

So keep it simple - more is not always better.

 

[ironmaster73]

You don’t need that many compounds.

Why use so much if you’ve been on TRT for a long time and your body fat is still high?
Just increase test to 200–250 mg/week, and add 200mg either Masteron or Primo - not both.
There’s no real benefit from using both at the same time.

Instead of more gear, add a few IUs of GH and focus on fat loss.
With proper training and those doses especially at your age and training experience you’ll regain muscle while losing fat. Also you don’t need T3.
T3, T4, insulin we only use those when truly needed, and only after checking bloodwork. Taking something like 25 mg of T3 without real need is pointless.
It can actually make you feel worse, especially if you’re running T3 alone.

So keep it simple - more is not always better.

hgh is out of the question at this time. I have been off all hgh the past 18 months since I have a kidney tumor I am dealing with. In the past I have ran cycles of tren test mast with clen and t3 and was able to drop 10% bodyfat in 10 weeks while maintaining mass and body weight. Last time I did that was about 10 years ago going from 92kg @ 18% to 92kg @ 10% all in 10 weeks. The testing was done on a dexa. I also hear what you are saying. Although I would like to drop most of the fat as fast as possible. Maybe doing test at 250mg/wk with low dose tren hex 100mg/wk for 8-10weeks would work along with say SR9009 which I have about 300 caps. I know the SR9009 works as my wife used it and dropped 7kg of fat over 12 weeks taking 30mg per day.

 

[luki7788]

hgh is out of the question at this time. I have been off all hgh the past 18 months since I have a kidney tumor I am dealing with. In the past I have ran cycles of tren test mast with clen and t3 and was able to drop 10% bodyfat in 10 weeks while maintaining mass and body weight. Last time I did that was about 10 years ago going from 92kg @ 18% to 92kg @ 10% all in 10 weeks. The testing was done on a dexa. I also hear what you are saying. Although I would like to drop most of the fat as fast as possible. Maybe doing test at 250mg/wk with low dose tren hex 100mg/wk for 8-10weeks would work along with say SR9009 which I have about 300 caps. I know the SR9009 works as my wife used it and dropped 7kg of fat over 12 weeks taking 30mg per day.

You have a kidney tumor and want to use tren...?

So I'd rather not advise you any further - sorry.

 

[madg]

Ban @luki7788 so we can answer in some thread

Joking ofc

Listen to lukas op

Respect

 

[P30LEM]

Why use so much if you’ve been on TRT for a long time and your body fat is still high?
Just increase test to 200–250 mg/week, and add 200mg either Masteron or Primo - not both.
There’s no real benefit from using both at the same time.

Assuming this guy wasn't trying to use tren with a fucking kidney tumor, would you generally try to get someone to get their diet in check first before bringing up the test and adding primo/mast, or bring them in as he brings the body fat to a better range?

 

[luki7788]

Assuming this guy wasn't trying to use tren with a fucking kidney tumor, would you generally try to get someone to get their diet in check first before bringing up the test and adding primo/mast, or bring them in as he brings the body fat to a better range?

200-250 test + 200 mast/primo is still not much more than trt but it will certainly make the process much easier and at the same time such doses will not have any negative impact on blood tests and general health if someone maintains appropriate prophylaxis, so - no

 

[P30LEM]

200-250 test + 200 mast/primo is still not much more than trt but it will certainly make the process much easier and at the same time such doses will not have any negative impact on blood tests and general health if someone maintains appropriate prophylaxis, so - no

Thanks for the response

 

[ironmaster73]

You have a kidney tumor and want to use tren...?

So I'd rather not advise you any further - sorry.

I hear what you are saying and agree Tren would be stupid to use now that I have had time to see it written down. This is why I posted this. Sometimes we cannot see the mistakes ourselves until it is out in the open and we have had time to discuss with others. I am greatful you have pointed this out to me and yes when you say it out load,"Use Tren." When I have a kidney tumor sounds stupid. I should know better and once again thanks for pointing this out to me and now I will get my head out of my arse.

 

[whoremoan]

how did you find out you had a kidney tumur? what were the signs?

 

[ironmaster73]

how did you find out you had a kidney tumur? what were the signs?

By chance. About 18 months ago I had a fall at work and cracked my disk. The tumor was found when I had the MRI for my disk injury. It was only small at the time 1cm and I was told to keep an eye on it. It is growing fast and over the last 12 months has grown quite fast 2.8cm so I am having it frozen to try and kill it off. This option is available as the tumor is under 4cm. Fingers cross it works. If not I will have to have the kidney removed.

 

[TRENBLAST]

Have not ran a cycle in over 2 years. Just been on trt 125mg/wk due to so medical issues that been dealing with last 18 months. Been training 30plus years and was actively competing in bb from the ages of 17-33 years old. Been thinking about trying my had at some major master's show. Holding a solid 102kg although bodyfat around 20% due to the issues I have had and unable to eat the best. At my best I could hold 100kg at 12% and diet that down to 87kg at sub 5%. Now 51 I find I do not need much to improve as all the years of training have built a great foundation. Want to know from other members their thoughts on my cycle lay out for getting back in shape. Goal is to get back to 100kg at sub 12% over the next 6 months and then looking at competing early next year. This is what I was thinking to start with.

test e 200mg/wk
primo 100mg/wk
mast e 100mg/wk
tren hex 100mg/wk
25mcg t3

Would like to run this in the first couple of months and adjust from here.

the reason for low dose primo is to help control e2 as 200mg of test raise my e2 to about twice the upper limit. Low mast to help test work better. low dose tren to help recomp with the t3.

Tren Hex not needed. I would run NPP @ 100mg a week to start instead.

 

[whoremoan]

By chance. About 18 months ago I had a fall at work and cracked my disk. The tumor was found when I had the MRI for my disk injury. It was only small at the time 1cm and I was told to keep an eye on it. It is growing fast and over the last 12 months has grown quite fast 2.8cm so I am having it frozen to try and kill it off. This option is available as the tumor is under 4cm. Fingers cross it works. If not I will have to have the kidney removed.

i hope you get it sorted

 

[Gizmo]

You should just stay away from androgens period until you get that kidney tumor taken care of. Testosterone is also a known tumor growth accelerant for certain cancers. And one of them is kidney cancer.

 

[pimpman]

You have a kidney tumor and want to use tren...?

So I'd rather not advise you any further - sorry.

I was thinking the same thing. First being 51 and wanting to use tren. Then having kidney tumors and wanting to use tren. And then 51 with kidney tumors and wanting not only to use tren but take more gear than just trt to compete again. I mean did competing from age of 17 to 33 wasn’t enough wtf and a master show

 

[pimpman]

Have not ran a cycle in over 2 years. Just been on trt 125mg/wk due to so medical issues that been dealing with last 18 months. Been training 30plus years and was actively competing in bb from the ages of 17-33 years old. Been thinking about trying my had at some major master's show. Holding a solid 102kg although bodyfat around 20% due to the issues I have had and unable to eat the best. At my best I could hold 100kg at 12% and diet that down to 87kg at sub 5%. Now 51 I find I do not need much to improve as all the years of training have built a great foundation. Want to know from other members their thoughts on my cycle lay out for getting back in shape. Goal is to get back to 100kg at sub 12% over the next 6 months and then looking at competing early next year. This is what I was thinking to start with.

test e 200mg/wk
primo 100mg/wk
mast e 100mg/wk
tren hex 100mg/wk
25mcg t3

Would like to run this in the first couple of months and adjust from here.

the reason for low dose primo is to help control e2 as 200mg of test raise my e2 to about twice the upper limit. Low mast to help test work better. low dose tren to help recomp with the t3.

Post some pictures

 

[pins]

To many compounds...