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I always preferred the oil based. The water based hurts like hell going in and even more the next day for me.
so oil based test would be halftime different?
I always preferred the oil based. The water based hurts like hell going in and even more the next day for me.
so oil based test would be halftime different?
TNE I feel same day.
Tren NE I feel right away
I use both in a pre workout schedule.
Dude there IS no ester...is there a difference in ester release lex?
Definitely. Just watch out for the pip. water based suspension can be a pain to inject.
Yeah, plus a giant alpha male ego boost for several hours.do you guys notice an increase in sex drive injecting TNE ?
Been doing a lot of research lately on this and some practical application for TRT.
From what I've read, water based (Suspension) has two peaks, the first upon injection and the second 6-7 days later as the crystals are absorbed from the injection depot.
Oil based is dissolved (so no crystals to absorb) so actually releases more fully and completely, no second peak. Also less chance of infection than with water based.
People who use it for TRT inject 8-15mg ED or even EOD and do it Sub Q (I've had a bad reaction to this- lumps-with the Oil Test Base) and IM (I prefer this way, no lumps).
Bump in Sex Drive, yes. But I also feel that E2 may be hard to predict and control unless you have access to blood tests pretty frequently.
I'd recommend reading LK3's threads. Lots of guys talking about using TNE Oil and some Test Suspension over there.
do you guys notice an increase in sex drive injecting TNE ?
Been doing a lot of research lately on this and some practical application for TRT.
From what I've read, water based (Suspension) has two peaks, the first upon injection and the second 6-7 days later as the crystals are absorbed from the injection depot.
Oil based is dissolved (so no crystals to absorb) so actually releases more fully and completely, no second peak. Also less chance of infection than with water based.
People who use it for TRT inject 8-15mg ED or even EOD and do it Sub Q (I've had a bad reaction to this- lumps-with the Oil Test Base) and IM (I prefer this way, no lumps).
Bump in Sex Drive, yes. But I also feel that E2 may be hard to predict and control unless you have access to blood tests pretty frequently.
I'd recommend reading LK3's threads. Lots of guys talking about using TNE Oil and some Test Suspension over there.
funny, I have tried to stay away form this as I figured there is sufficient info on tne in both my threads... lol
like I explained before... we do our tne a bit different, the way we do it is designed for OUR purposes here.
water tne, is not a suspension of test powder as this gives unpleasant injects and uneven blood levels. our water is two solutions which you shake to suspend. this gives a very hard hitting fast in and out test that you really feel. it can be hard to dial in your dose. you need to try n shoot same time ed and take you ant e same time after it...
ed dosing is fine but not necessary.
you do see less side effects when you do it ed.
oil will slow the release a bit, at least the way we do it.
our two different oils do seem to show different release rates too and THAT is why we use them...
the clear oil is slower to absorb, so it will not hit as hard and deliver a more even release.
the regular oil ( safflower ) is somewhere between the two.
for years I did oil mixed with my other stuff 4x wk prior to training and honestly that is just fine.
my back can be a lil broken out like that but for ease of day to day life I deal with that.
for libido I feel tne much more then other test.
but.... keep the dose reasonable as more is not always more for sex drive...
for people saying they do not "feel" tren base... ill challenge that any day of the week! lol
I do not really obsess on timing, I shower then do my shots eat and walk to gym, usually im training with in 90mins of admin.
tne water in terms of libido you can feel very quickly, especially if you are dialed in OR if low on t.
even though it works fast you do have to be patient when dialing it in, expect to take a month or so to figure out timing and anti e needs.
hope that helps!
We have tne and tren base . I tried the tren base is a hell of a pre-workout. Both have lots of reviews and no pip. Going to use the TNE next workoutdday
I've used the water based (suspension) like what has been said, it can be painful. the suspension brand I used a few years ago made me limp for a week after a quad inject