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To avoid androgenic sides... simply run more anabolic compounds vs. androgenic?

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Seems like a pretty simple question, but I ask to see what the real results are from those of you who do this.

When I run 1g or 1500mg's of Test, I feel great but what really kills the high is:

1. Bloat
2. GREASY skin and hair...I can soak a napkin in my grease it's disgusting
3. Greasy BO

Aside from that, love the sex drive, my mood, everything.

Now I've been reading about people who do low dose or no dose test cycles and just run more anabolic compounds, so for example, you'd keep in a minimum of say, 250mg of Test E per week but run 750mg of Tren and 700mg of EQ. That's just an example.

So basically I'm asking if running a higher ratio of anabolic to androgenic compounds would still give great gains, both in theory and in practice.

I guess I've just been brainwashed since I started in this game that Test is a must, but the more I read and the more I experience, I am beginning to think that except for a little bit of Test to keep sex drive up, we should focus more on anabolic compounds and less on primarily androgenic ones.

Thoughts?
 
Most of the times the reason for low test and high anabolics is to reduce the sides of the anabolic. A lot of people get many sides from tren when they run it high along with a high dose of test but found that when the test is lowered the tren sides diminished. The low test is really only left in to keep your dick hard. For me the only sides i get from tren are night sweats, i can deal with that. id be leary of running that high of tren with that high of eq, blood pressure would be my biggest fear followed next by high hemo.

Interminent (spelling) use of AIs help with test sides for myself. Come to think of it the only sides i get from test are boners lol
 
I've made the switch to low test.
I get better results from anabolics, and less sides with the lower test dose.
Its strange because I can run high dose test by itself with minimal sides, but when I stack it with anything else it seems to bring out the sides of those drugs.
 
There was a great thread on here a few years ago which Magnum had a lot of input into on anabolics vs androgens but i couldn't find it when i searched
 
I think the drug use is going to be largely dependent on your goals.

Bodybuilding? Enough test to function, but 90% anabolics. Near a contest bring in the heavy androgens just to give your physique that hard, grainy, dense look


Powerlifting? 90% androgens. You need the heavy, nasty androgens to keep you strong, powerful, explosive, focused and 'angry'. The anabolics are there mostly to help joints, collagen, and in case you want to move up a weight class you up them a bit

This is just how I see it. Feel free to disagree or add your own opinion
 
I've done low test high tren and it was a better and more manageable cycle than high test low tren
 

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