To come off or not.. That is the question

[LiftAmongstGiants]

I've wrote recently on another thread about no pct but did not want to jack his audience so I'll do my own. I've been ON since may and plan on coming off in the next week or so. I was up to 1250 of test at one point and decreased down to 200mg which will be my shot friday. I've also been on GH since may and will run it another 2 months then take a little break. I was wanting to just cruise til march then blast another 16-20 week cycle and then come off completely after that, take a break and go back to cycling, but I'm scared there might be a chance of not recovering. I have ran hcg on and off through the cycle alongside an A.I. and if I do come off this time I'm going to try and just run my A.I to keep E levels in check maybe triptorelin alongside the Gh and maybe a few peptides. So would it be smart gain wise and health wise to just cruise and blast which would come out to a little over a year total? Would I be ok as long as I got Bloods done and kept in check? or come off for a while and jump back on. Also with a new chick 3 months in so losing sex drive is about to be a big headache. Cialis and PT141 gone be kept on deck

 

[The Grim Repper]

I vote for coming off. There's more to it when it comes to your body besides not recovering. Your organs need a break, etc. If your BP is elevated, long term that causes crap to kidneys and eyes. Get a solid PCT together and train without compounds for a while. Sudden gains in strength and stamina which may have 'dried up' while on after coming off are not unheard of. Of course get bloods done. This should be done always anyway. Get them done a few weeks after PCT to see where you stand. If something needs work, fix it. Before you go back on repeat that so you have a baseline then bloods once you're on to see how it compares.
Good luck!
G.

 

[LiftAmongstGiants]

Thanks for the reply. I've been training since for almost 10 years and have ran roughly 6 cycles in this period 3 with a great pct and the first 3 without. The first 3 without pct i recovered fine sex drive came back felt great but loss a little more gains then when i used a solid pct. Although my nutrition wasn't as on point as it is now so who knows it probly would have been the same. I never had sex drive issues until i jumped into the pct world. Also the emotional issues from clomid sucks ass. I guess what im saying is PCT seemed to treat my body more harm then good. I got my bloodtest done before cycle and will be getting them again a couple weeks after i get off if thats what i do and if not i'll still be getting them done. I'm just contemplating trying to cruise and blast a while or maybe get off with a taper down and just an A.I. and hcg or trip combo. I don't know but judging where im at relationship wise with a new chick and the way pct drugs have treated me in the past seems to be a nightmare waiting to happen. But again thanks for the reply

 

[CaliRobK]

I also vote to come off. Eventually all good things must come to an end. As was previously stated your body needs a break. It will also make your next cycle much more effective.

 

[Ocean cool]

Yeah. Just come off.

 

[Bwakelights]

I understand when you guys say that your body needs a break, but isn't that what HRT doses are for? Why would he have elevated BP at a HRT dose? I vote for coming off too BTW, but for a different reason. I wouldn't blast and cruise unless I were willing to stay on forever, which you said you plan on coming off for good. So yeah, another vote for coming off with proper PCT.

 

[blackngold]

How old are you? If you're in your twenties, it's a different answer then if you're 40.

 

[SacrificeFitness]

CRUUUUUISE. Theres always time to recover later

 

[negaburn9]

I understand when you guys say that your body needs a break, but isn't that what HRT doses are for? Why would he have elevated BP at a HRT dose? I vote for coming off too BTW, but for a different reason. I wouldn't blast and cruise unless I were willing to stay on forever, which you said you plan on coming off for good. So yeah, another vote for coming off with proper PCT.

anyone who gets high blood pressure from their trt is using way too much. they are cycling. 150mg/ week max for trt and most feel great on 100mg.

 

[LiftAmongstGiants]

I'm sorry by saying coming off i didn't mean forever i was simply meaning to come off and cycle again. I'll probly be cycling the rest of my life til i end up blasting and cruising because eventually i probly want have a choice. Lets say i did decide to cruise and do a blast would i be able to come off after lets say a little over a year of being on and recover? Not saying im coming off forever im simply saying a cruise then blast then maybe take a break if I don't like the lifestyle of blasting and cruising. Has anyone done this before? longest you've stayed on and came off safely? Thanks for all the replys by the way.

 

[red5150]

CRUUUUUISE. Theres always time to recover later

Says the man who started a thread asking the same thing. Guess you had your mind made up before you ever asked the question.

 

[nothuman]

I vote for coming off. There's more to it when it comes to your body besides not recovering. Your organs need a break, etc. If your BP is elevated, long term that causes crap to kidneys and eyes. Get a solid PCT together and train without compounds for a while. Sudden gains in strength and stamina which may have 'dried up' while on after coming off are not unheard of. Of course get bloods done. This should be done always anyway. Get them done a few weeks after PCT to see where you stand. If something needs work, fix it. Before you go back on repeat that so you have a baseline then bloods once you're on to see how it compares.
Good luck!
G.

What makes you think cruising on TRT won't allow all of those things to have a "break"?

If he does that, his body will return to normal a lot more effectively than crashing his hormone levels completely.

 

[The Grim Repper]

What makes you think cruising on TRT won't allow all of those things to have a "break"?

If he does that, his body will return to normal a lot more effectively than crashing his hormone levels completely.

I didn't say TRT wouldn't allow for things to have a break. He said he wanted to cruise (on what dosage was not mentioned) until March, blast then come off completely. Unfortunately, based upon OP's original comments, I can't speculate what his cruising dosages would be and since some peoples' cruises are above TRT advising him to cruise vs. come off wouldn't be something I'd feel right advising.

Point taken,but I'm only going on what OP wrote.

 

[aminoman74]

Cruise at 250 MG's and decide from there. You can decide for yourself.

 

[nothuman]

I didn't say TRT wouldn't allow for things to have a break. He said he wanted to cruise (on what dosage was not mentioned) until March, blast then come off completely. Unfortunately, based upon OP's original comments, I can't speculate what his cruising dosages would be and since some peoples' cruises are above TRT advising him to cruise vs. come off wouldn't be something I'd feel right advising.

Point taken,but I'm only going on what OP wrote.

You said it yourself. He didn't specify enough.

 

[Jmoney1234]

Blackngold is right, it depends on your age. If you're over 30, I would always run pct. If you're over 40 depending on your normal test levels you might wanna consider staying on year round.

 

[MaineGuy]

You basically answered your question yourself. You said you are going to Cycle the rest of your life. If you truly believe this, then come down to a TRT dose of Test and don't put your body through all the hormonal roller coasters.

 

[LiftAmongstGiants]

I'll be deciding over the next week. I guess what im really wanting to know/hear lol is if I do cruise and then blast in march if I decide Its not for me after the blast will i be able to come down and still be able to recover without having to stay on TRT for life? I've been running hcg on and off throughout my cycle and plan on continuing to do so. Like I said I've done ran about six cycles and don't plan on ever stopping but honestly who knows what they'll be doing in 7-10 years or what kind of state our economy/world will be in. Wanting to take the plunge but trying to be smart about it. So if I could get a few honest opinions on recovery after being on a little over a year lets say 14-16 months while using hcg on and off. Chances of recovery back to normal if worse comes to worse?

 

[jackedcarpenter]

I vote for coming off. In my opinion you should take it easy on your body and give it that break from time to time as long as you're not competing

 

[sammy555]

Unless your hitting health problems id just cruise. Depends how serious you are about your goals and what them goals are though

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