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Toney Freeman Team Huamanofort . One of the best podcast, probably will disappointment for the mega dozers.

He guest posed at my 2016 Venice Beach muscle beach npc show that I did with Matt porter rip help. He was extremely nice and helped me with posing tips when nobody backstage would because I looked better than my competitors but had no idea how to hit proper poses which is everything to win. If I remember correctly he even sent me samples years back or a company he was starting or working for and i sent him samples when I was running aztec supplements my own business and we exchanged convos on fb before I was incarcerated for steroids and lost everything. Him and Don long . I still keep in touch with Don. Off topic but I am rebuilding my company as we speak. Hit some hard knocks .God is good and God is great amen.
I worked with Don back in my competing days. Very nice guy. I remember going to his hotel room and on his bed he had the biggest suitcase I’ve ever seen that was for his dialysis. I lost touch with him and didn’t think he was still alive
 
He guest posed at my 2016 Venice Beach muscle beach npc show that I did with Matt porter rip help. He was extremely nice and helped me with posing tips when nobody backstage would because I looked better than my competitors but had no idea how to hit proper poses which is everything to win. If I remember correctly he even sent me samples years back or a company he was starting or working for and i sent him samples when I was running aztec supplements my own business and we exchanged convos on fb before I was incarcerated for steroids and lost everything. Him and Don long . I still keep in touch with Don. Off topic but I am rebuilding my company as we speak. Hit some hard knocks .God is good and God is great amen.
Good to hear from you. Is your supplement company (Aztec) in business, up and running?
 
Here are several critical flaws and areas for improvement in the provided summary of the science behind Humanofort:





1. Lack of Clarity and Organization





• The text contains dense, jargon-heavy language that may alienate a general audience.


• It lacks a clear structure: important points (e.g., mechanisms of action, benefits) are not distinguished from background details (e.g., cultural uses of embryos).


• Mixing unrelated topics (e.g., miRNAs, cancer suppression) creates confusion, as it’s unclear how they directly relate to Humanofort.





2. Insufficient Evidence to Support Claims





• Many claims about the efficacy of Humanofort are vague or lack citations for key studies. For example:


• “Embryo tissues are rich in growth factors…” lacks specifics on dosage, bioavailability, and impact.


• “miRNAs as therapeutic agents” is discussed broadly, but there’s no direct evidence linking Humanofort-derived miRNAs to these therapeutic effects.


• Some citations (e.g., Radecki et al., 1997; Magat, 2002) appear outdated, undermining the claim that this is cutting-edge science.





3. Logical Gaps and Overgeneralizations





• The summary jumps from the general properties of miRNAs to suggesting Humanofort has similar effects without clear evidence. For example:


• “MiRNAs act as tumor suppressors; therefore, Humanofort might suppress tumors.” This logical leap lacks substantiation.


• The text assumes that bioactive peptides or growth factors from chicken embryos are absorbed and utilized effectively in humans, without discussing:


• Human digestion/metabolism of such peptides.


• Potential for allergic reactions or immune responses.





4. Ambiguity in Scientific Processes





• The mechanism by which Humanofort’s components survive digestion and cross intestinal membranes is oversimplified. Claims about “intestinal absorption enhancers” lack details or references.


• The role of “tangential ultra-filtration” is mentioned but not explained—how does this process uniquely preserve bioactivity compared to other methods?





5. Weakness in Credibility of Sources





• The credibility of cited studies is questionable:


• The reliance on older or niche studies (e.g., Brennecke et al., 2003; Martinez-Maqueda et al., 2012) undermines the scientific validity of the claims.


• Some referenced authors (e.g., Rothschild, 2014) are mentioned without sufficient detail about the relevance of their work.


• Cultural anecdotes (e.g., South Asian uses of embryos as aphrodisiacs) are irrelevant and detract from the scientific focus.





6. Exaggerated Claims





• The text implies that Humanofort has potential for cancer suppression, stem cell differentiation, and induced pluripotency. These are highly ambitious and require direct evidence to support.


• Statements such as “unparalleled technology of extracting vaccine-graded embryonic stem cells” are hyperbolic and misleading, as Humanofort does not involve stem cells but peptides.





7. Ethical Concerns





• The summary briefly touches on the source of Humanofort (chicken embryos) but fails to address potential ethical or regulatory issues associated with embryo-derived products.


• No mention of potential risks or side effects is provided, which creates an imbalanced presentation.





8. Poor Citation Formatting and Inconsistencies





• The text does not consistently adhere to any citation format, leading to confusion (e.g., missing years, incomplete references).


• Some citations are mismatched or incomplete, such as “Cuellar, McManus, & McManus (2005)”—are these authors different or repeated?





9. Unexplored Counterarguments





• The text does not address skepticism or potential criticisms:


• Lack of large-scale, peer-reviewed studies.


• Concerns about safety, regulation, and efficacy in humans.






I asked AI to analyze your post .We

Biggest concern


• It’s unclear whether the active peptides and miRNAs survive the digestive process to exert systemic effects.


• Peptides often degrade in the stomach unless specifically modified to resist digestion.
Well than don`t take it. The growth factors for the Humanofort it doze not degrade in the stomach.
 
What is the reasoning behind this ? Wouldn't it eventually lead to over training the muscle ?
for many years I did 100-200 push-ups every day and I was absolutely not overtrained, and I even think that at that time I had the best results in presses movements and I even recently thought about whether to go back to it
 
for many years I did 100-200 push-ups every day and I was absolutely not overtrained, and I even think that at that time I had the best results in presses movements and I even recently thought about whether to go back to it

Yah peaked my interest 👍
 
for many years I did 100-200 push-ups every day and I was absolutely not overtrained, and I even think that at that time I had the best results in presses movements and I even recently thought about whether to go back to it
I started bodybuilding with push-ups and chin-ups did it every day for 2 years before I started lifting but never stopped still doing it every day.
 
What about total sets?
Would you recommend starting your workout with these or finishing?
Back in the late 60s when I started bodybuilding I did chin-ups 10 x 20 reps every day and 10 x 30 reps push-ups every day. Now I am doing every day 1 set of 120 reps non stop push-ups (elevated push-ups) and 8 sets assisted chin-ups 1x20 , 2x15, 5 x12 I am 2 hours in the gym 6 days, for intra I use raw honey and water no EAA or BCAA.
 
What about total sets?
Would you recommend starting your workout with these or finishing?
On chest days start with push-up and on non chest days finish with pus-up.
 
for many years I did 100-200 push-ups every day and I was absolutely not overtrained, and I even think that at that time I had the best results in presses movements and I even recently thought about whether to go back to it
I definitely feel like there is something to these close chain exercise. I can't imagine someone who can do 20 chins looking bad or someone's who can't do 5-10 looking good.
 
If this thread is for “promotional purposes” shouldn’t it be in the “sponsors” section…
 
If this thread is for “promotional purposes” shouldn’t it be in the “sponsors” section…

It's kind of unfortunate we can't have a real thread about HF. I actually am taking it right now but honest to God I don't know if it's doing anything and I've been taking it many months straight. I know the above poster used AI for the response, but most of the post content are the exact questions I have and why I think it may not actually be even a fraction of the effectiveness as claimed. The thing is, that's not me knocking Emeric and these threads quickly devolve into someone getting banned for slamming Emeric because they take it too far or the thread locked when there are real discussions many would like to have (not you, you've worded your post eloquently, IMO).

I was trying to find an old post by Dante where he was quite respectful but believe he basically said he really doesn't see a reason to use HF. That always stuck with me...not that Dante is the be all end all, of course. I've taken as high as 600mgs of it and as low as just the 200mgs before bed. I only take 20mgs of test a day as a true trt dose.

I'm just rambling that this point. This whole HF discussion has been one of the oddest things on this board in the many years I've been here.
 
It's kind of unfortunate we can't have a real thread about HF. I actually am taking it right now but honest to God I don't know if it's doing anything and I've been taking it many months straight. I know the above poster used AI for the response, but most of the post content are the exact questions I have and why I think it may not actually be even a fraction of the effectiveness as claimed. The thing is, that's not me knocking Emeric and these threads quickly devolve into someone getting banned for slamming Emeric because they take it too far or the thread locked when there are real discussions many would like to have (not you, you've worded your post eloquently, IMO).

I was trying to find an old post by Dante where he was quite respectful but believe he basically said he really doesn't see a reason to use HF. That always stuck with me...not that Dante is the be all end all, of course. I've taken as high as 600mgs of it and as low as just the 200mgs before bed. I only take 20mgs of test a day as a true trt dose.

I'm just rambling that this point. This whole HF discussion has been one of the oddest things on this board in the many years I've been here.
Agreed. It’s due to mixing a good supplement discussion with misleading promotional purposes IMO.

As I said in my previous post and on here all the time- I take Humanofort and like it for what it does. BUT, it is NOT why I look the way I do. I have used it off and on for a decade now and it has no bearing on how I look physically.

Dante is correct as all of the backed studies state that the “main” benefits on Humanofort such as increased free testosterone come from 600-2000mg. Most do not take more than 300mg based on what has been suggested on here.

Maybe Emeric can start an objective “Humanofort” thread here or in the articles section for a truly objective discussion to take place.
 
I'm just rambling that this point. This whole HF discussion has been one of the oddest things on this board in the many years I've been here.
It really is strange. It used to be a lot worse years ago where if you posted anything even questioning Humanofort you would have a ton of dudes piling on and slamming you. If it wasn’t backed by Emeric (who coincidentally is the only one who legally can sell it) and a legion of “vets” I don’t even think it would be discussed here anymore.

It probably is a decent supplement but the way it’s marketed as the missing link makes me think it’s snake oil, and I know I’m not the only one
 
Years ago I probably might have not taken humanofort (early twenties and thirties), but now at 53yrs old I'm trying to get the most out of the least amount of gear possible, so I try and take things that I consider background optimizers so I will probably always take humanofort, 200mg L-carnitine, berberine, and fish oil as I believe these are all effective background optimizers.
Believe what YOU WANT, and take what YOU WANT, no need to argue or talk down to others that believe in different things I personally believe some of the stuff I see older dudes doing on here gear wise is madness, but I don't go jumping on every thread pounding my chest and stating it, I just shake my head say good luck (in my head) and keep it moving. The older I get the less fucks given on what other dudes are doing, hell my posting on this board is becoming less and less as the only threads that really peek my interest are the pro bodybuilding threads we got going on, and I enjoy reading guys logs in that section of the site.
 
It's kind of unfortunate we can't have a real thread about HF. I actually am taking it right now but honest to God I don't know if it's doing anything and I've been taking it many months straight. I know the above poster used AI for the response, but most of the post content are the exact questions I have and why I think it may not actually be even a fraction of the effectiveness as claimed. The thing is, that's not me knocking Emeric and these threads quickly devolve into someone getting banned for slamming Emeric because they take it too far or the thread locked when there are real discussions many would like to have (not you, you've worded your post eloquently, IMO).

I was trying to find an old post by Dante where he was quite respectful but believe he basically said he really doesn't see a reason to use HF. That always stuck with me...not that Dante is the be all end all, of course. I've taken as high as 600mgs of it and as low as just the 200mgs before bed. I only take 20mgs of test a day as a true trt dose.

I'm just rambling that this point. This whole HF discussion has been one of the oddest things on this board in the many years I've been here.


well said.

Huge fan of emerics physique, longevity, and judicious use of testosterone he advocates.
 
Back in the late 60s when I started bodybuilding I did chin-ups 10 x 20 reps every day and 10 x 30 reps push-ups every day. Now I am doing every day 1 set of 120 reps non stop push-ups (elevated push-ups) and 8 sets assisted chin-ups 1x20 , 2x15, 5 x12 I am 2 hours in the gym 6 days, for intra I use raw honey and water no EAA or BCAA.

Can I ask how much RAW honey you use for your intra?
 

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